Some inconsistencies between 70CE and Zechariah 14. —Z14 Yahweh gathers all the nations against Jerusalem
70CE Yahweh Gathered Rome led by Titus and Vespasian. They had soldier from other nations in their auxiliary camp, sure, but that was Rome being rallied. Parthia, for example, a nation inside the Roman sphere of influence, did not come against Jerusalem. —Z14 The city shall be taken, The houses rifled, And the women ravished
70CE matches this general description of all ancient warfare
—Z14 Half of the city shall go into captivity,
70CE most of the city’s inhabitants were killed. Only a tithe was sent into captivity.70CE the Jews in Jerusalem were completely cut off from Jerusalem. Rome occupied the city with the 10th Legion. Only 60 years later do we see the Bar Kochba rebels gather to Jerusalem to try and stop the Romans from building a temple to Jupiter in Jerusalem.
Z14 Then the Lord will go forth And fight against those
nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
—❌70CE Yahweh did not go forth and
fight the “all the nations” which he gathered to fight against Jerusalem. There are two
accounts of heavenly armies fighting. One from Josephus and another from
Tacitus, but these heavenly armies did not oppose and fight against the armies
of Rome.
Z14 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of
Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be
split in two, From east to west, Making a very large valley; Half of the
mountain shall move toward the north And half of it toward the south.
—❌70 CE the mount of Olives was
mot split in any way. Not literally and not symbolically by Rome. The Mount of
Olives was not even attacked by Rome. The Mount of Olives is not analogous to
the Nile river prophetically “going dry” as when Isaiah 19 and Ezekiel 30 prophecy Nebuchadnezzar will
destroy Egypt. The Mount of Olives isn’t something that remotely compares. If
it said Jerusalem will be split in half, then sure, that would work better, but
it doesn’t.
Z14 Then you shall flee through My mountain valley, For the
mountain valley shall reach to Azal. Yes, you shall flee As you fled from the
earthquake In the days of Uzziah king of Judah.
—❌70 CE, The language to this
point in Zechariah 14 is about an actual city being conquered by an actual
armies. It’s already been shown that the Mount of Olives prophesied about here
=\= a Nile River kind of prophetic image, and this goes even further. Zechariah
compares this event to an actual time in history when people literally fled the
city on foot during an earth quake. It says people will actually flee between
the cleft of the split mountains. It’s impossible to get around this being
literal. I’ve been on the Mount of Olives. It ain’t split.
Z14 Thus YAHWEH my God will come, And all the saints with
You.
—❌70CE Yahweh did not come with
all His saints against Jerusalem. Yahweh came in power and “in the clouds” but not
with “all His Saints.”
Paul quotes this passage in 2 Thessalonians in regard to the 2nd coming of
Messiah. If you take a preterist view of 2 Thessalonians 2, then the logical
conclusion is full preterism.
Consider all of these event have not been fulfilled, and
Paul quote this passage about the return of Christ, It makes the most sense to
see Z14 as about the second coming.
Z14 It shall come to pass in that day That there will be no
light; The lights will diminish. 7 It shall be one day Which is known to the
Lord-- Neither day nor night. But at evening time it shall happen That it will
be light.
—✅70CE, again, and you’ve shown this well, there is general conquest imagery in Z14
which can be attributed to any time Yahweh came in the clouds. This imagery
lines up with 70CE, but a couple pieces lining up with an event isn’t the same
as it prophesying the event.
Z14 And in that day
it shall be That living waters shall flow from Jerusalem, Half of them toward
the eastern sea And half of them toward the western sea; In both summer and
winter it shall occur.
—❌70CE, the Partial Preterist and
Postmillenial view point is forced to see Jerusalem literal in part of the
passage and figurative here with no clear reason why. The language about
Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, people taken captive, etc has been
literal all through the text. The things which can be proven to have not historically
actually happened the PPandPostmil perspective spiritualizes. It’s really bad
interpretation. This hasn’t happened yet.
—Z14 8 in that day… 9 And Yahweh shall be King over all the
earth. In that day it shall be-- "The Lord is one," And His name one.
—❌70CE Yahweh has not come with
all His saints and Yahweh is not reigning over all the earth after having come
to earth.
Z14 All the land shall be turned into a plain from Geba to
Rimmon south of Jerusalem. Jerusalem shall be raised up and inhabited in her
place from Benjamin's Gate to the place of the First Gate and the Corner Gate,
and from the Tower of Hananeel to the king's winepresses
—❌70CE again, the consistent
interpretation see Jerusalem and Judea as the actual places. This has clearly
not happened yet. This goes into such specific detail about the region which is
made level. Giba to Remmon has not be made a plain. Jersualem was not inhabited
when Yahweh “came in the clouds” against Jerusalem in 70CE.
Z14 The people shall dwell in it; And no longer shall there
be utter destruction, But Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
❌70 CE did not see Jerusalem
safely inhabited in any way shape or form. There is also still utter
destruction. The Bar Kochba revolution is a perfect example.
Z14 And this shall be the plague with which the Lord will
strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve
while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And
their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
❌70CE, this did not happen in the
literal or the symbolic.
