Friday, February 22, 2019

Semantic Agent Man

Lets talk a moment about both agency and semantics. A lot of people get hung up on semantics in their reasoning and they incorporate these things into faulty doctrines. This is one reason that we have flat earth. One of the things that I hear from people that don't understand is on the topic of the returning to the land and the restoration of the House of Israel. there are some that see the working of God being done and attribute it rightly to Him. Others see that God uses men to achieve His purpose. Look at these too verses:

So the Lord was very angry with Israel and removed them from his presence. Only the tribe of Judah was left - 2 kings 17

And the king of Assyria did carry away Israel unto Assyria and put them in Halah and in Habor by the river of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes: because they obeyed not the voice of the LORD their God, but transgressed his covenant, and all that Moses the servant of the LORD commanded and would not hear them, nor do them.- 2 kings 18

In a semantic argument one would say that these two verses are in contradiction as one says that God removed them, and the other says that the King of Assyria removed them. Unless you account that God used the King of Assyria to take Israel into captivity.


Lets look at this passage about God bringing forth Israel:

“Before she travailed, she brought forth;
Before her pain came, she gave birth to a boy.
8 “Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things?
Can a land be born in one day?
Can a nation be brought forth all at once?
As soon as Zion travailed, she also brought forth her sons.
9 “Shall I bring to the point of birth and not give delivery?” says the Lord.
“Or shall I who gives delivery shut the womb?”
says your God

This is speaking about God bringing forward Jerusalem which is a miracle in of itself, he did it. However, he did it using agency. God used Great Brittan and The United States as instruments to his work. The credit goes squarely to God, but he used people to make things happen.

Lets look at another example:

 "Now when Pharaoh had let the people go, God did not lead them by the way of the land of the Philistines, even though it was near; for God said, “The people might change their minds when they see war, and return to Egypt.” - Exo 13

God let Israel go or did Pharaoh? God did. We see this in Exo 9
And the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he did not listen to them, just as the Lord had spoken to Moses. Semantics and bad logic would look at the verse in chapter 13 as being contrary to Exo 9, but we see God works through people to achieve His will.

There are some that look at the retaking of the land and greater exodus as something that God does, and don't get me wrong it is an act of God, but the dismiss the peoples part in it and I think that is foolishness.


In History, the 12 tribes went into captivity because of their sins, but God said only Judah would remain because of God being God and good with His promises.  We read in 1 Kings about the sins of Jereboam and all that. When we read Revelation and Ezekiel we see a restoration of the Tribes of Israel. not just one tribe "Jews" or "Judah" but the restoration of the Tribes.


Then He said to me, “Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel; behold, they say, ‘Our bones are dried up and our hope has perished. We are completely cut off.’ 12 Therefore prophesy and say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God, “Behold, I will open your graves and cause you to come up out of your graves, My people; and I will bring you into the land of Israel. 13 Then you will know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves and caused you to come up out of your graves, My people. 14 I will put My Spirit within you and you will come to life, and I will place you on your own land. Then you will know that I, the Lord, have spoken and done it,” declares the Lord.’”
“And you, son of man, take for yourself one stick and write on it, ‘For Judah and for the sons of Israel, his companions’; then take another stick and write on it, ‘For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and all the house of Israel, his companions.’ 17 Then join them for yourself one to another into one stick, that they may become one in your hand. 18 When the sons of your people speak to you saying, ‘Will you not declare to us what you mean by these?’ 19 say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God, “Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel, his companions; and I will put them with it, with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they will be one in My hand.”’ 20 The sticks on which you write will be in your hand before their eyes. 21 Say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God, “Behold, I will take the sons of Israel from among the nations where they have gone, and I will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; 22 and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king will be king for all of them; and they will no longer be two nations and no longer be divided into two kingdoms. 23 They will no longer defile themselves with their idols, or with their detestable things, or with any of their transgressions; but I will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them. And they will be My people, and I will be their God.- Ezekiel 37

So, what we see and have seen through history is God doing Amazing and Mighty things, to whom gets all the credit to Himself, but he uses people to get things done. Agency.  It is not unreasonable to believe that men have obedience in returning to the land in the same way in which they were lead out of Egypt. It may not mean that Yeshua physically returns and ushers us in, but then again He might.

passover notes

   Exodus 12 Speak to all the congregation of Israel, saying, ‘On the tenth of this month they are each one to take a lamb for themselves,...