Saturday, January 6, 2018

The Dangers of Bad Logic.

Being in Messianic circles you run into a fair share of weird ideas that pop up now and again from conspiracy prone minds. Many times people come into some understanding of Torah, and feel so betrayed and lied to by many of the doctrines and falsehoods shared with them from the church and many teacher, that they go so far to reject almost everything that they were taught. Many throw the baby out with the bathwater so to speak.  Some people rail about the earth being flat, some people rant about lizard people under the Denver airport. My favorite is that the tap water is turning the frogs gay.  You might ask, so what? What does that hurt?  Well, for one, it can be a great damage of the actual truth. I've seen some strings of weird controversy that if I didn't know any better, I'd say was a counterintelligence effort to undermine some doctrines of Torah... but that in of itself would be a conspiracy. If I go around telling you that you need the Savior to redeem you from your sins, that is likely something that you have some knowledge of or have heard said. If I add to that message that you need the Savior to redeem you from your sins because the illuminati is running a shadow government coupled with planned parenthood where they have secret parties to eat babies for power and dark arts and they're coming for you specifically... That is a whole semi-truck load of weird stuff that I just dumped on your lawn that chases the message of the Redeemer a little farther away.

I want to talk about some things that I have seen that flex some bad hermenutics or express some flawed logic, that though those who use it may have the best intentions... may actually be stifling themselves and others. This is one passage that came up recently

37 Thus says the Lord,
“If the heavens above can be measured
And the foundations of the earth searched out below,
Then I will also cast off all the offspring of Israel
For all that they have done,” declares the Lord.
Jeremiah 31:37

The narrow scope of this verse was brought up in the context that NASA was a some strange propaganda entity ( which maybe it is) that was spreading falsehood because by this verse, they had extrapolated that the universe cannot be measured. Since NASA has recorded how much they have measured from here to the sun, from here to the moon, and they have measurements of how much they have measured of the universe... then they are telling a lie because by one reasoning of logic on this passage, the heavens cannot be measured. This is bad logic.  How do we account for a passage like this with that logic?

Who has measured the waters in the hollow of His hand,
And marked off the heavens by the span,
And calculated the dust of the earth by the measure,
And weighed the mountains in a balance
And the hills in a pair of scales?- Isaiah 40:12

Did God measure out the heavens and mark them off or is it without measure?  There are several ways of looking at something and they either make sense or they don't. Sometimes people take a bad foundation and they build upon it until everything that they have is shaky doctrine.

'As the host of heaven cannot be counted and the sand of the sea cannot be measured, so I will multiply the descendants of David My servant and the Levites who minister to Me.'" - Jeremiah 33:22

In one of the discussions I had on this logic, I asked "Can sand be measured?"  Is not one grain of sand a measurement? A scoop of sand a measurement? If I fill 1 bag of sand, does this mean that the line of David has been cut off because I have made a measurement and therefore defied scripture? Does my scooping a cup of beach dirt some how mean that I am abandoning the bible and its precepts in favor of some sort of scientific elevation and infusing the doctrines of men with the scriptures of God?

ABSOLUTELY NOT.  That would be ridiculous.

Think this type of reasoning is new? It's not. There are a lot of people that think that if you don't take a passage by the very stringent literal narrow interpretation then you're presenting something without study or you're ignorant. I see this a bit in the flat earth area.  Look at this hard to swallow passage:

Therefore the Jews were grumbling about Him, because He said, “I am the bread that came down out of heaven.” 42 They were saying, “Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How does He now say, ‘I have come down out of heaven’?” 43 Jesus answered and said to them, “Do not grumble among yourselves. 44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught of God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me. 46 Not that anyone has seen the Father, except the One who is from God; He has seen the Father. 47 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life. - John 6

Right now we still have people that read a passage like this, and would argue these types of logic. "Jesus can't have come from heaven, because he's got a father named Joseph and a mother named Mary. Scripture states it right there. If you believe something other than this, they you need to study it more the way that I have and stop making science your god or something" Bad logic would state that when he says He is bread that came down from heaven, he's literally a loaf that fell out of the sky. It continues, and gets even more complicated

48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50 This is the bread which comes down out of heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down out of heaven; if anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread also which I will give for the life of the world is My flesh.

52 Then the Jews began to argue with one another, saying, “How can this man give us His flesh to eat?” 53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves. 54 He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day. 55 For My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink. 56 He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats Me, he also will live because of Me. 58 This is the bread which came down out of heaven; not as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live forever.”

Do we take this logic to mean in the absolute literal sense that we're to be cannibals? Are we to take this logic and apply it to eating the corpses of dead pastors? Thats so gross I almost dont even want to write it. This is the same narrow scoped reasoning and bad logic.  There are some people that take a large abstract theological concept and they reduce it to a narrow focus and get hung up on it.

Going back for a second to the NASA issue ( It shouldn't even be an issue, but I'm trying to highlight the deeper point here) There are two words  Strongs H 5375. nasa  which means in the Hebrew to lift and Strongs  H 5377. nasha which mean in Hebrew to deceive. The root word for both of these is the same and has the same spelling. Some people in the flat earth persuasion are taking this as a point to buttress the idea that the earth is flat and NASA is lying to us, even though this has no bearing on anything as NASA is an acronym and its meaning of lift is more than likely coincidental.  Why is this seemingly nothing thing dangerous? Because when you start making the claim that similar things are the same things, even though they are different things you start eroding at credibility and truth. Its a little drop of deception that gets sown in and grows to a big deep rooted lie. In my conversation I brought up the words wind and wind.  In reading that sentence you see that the two words look the same, are spelled the same... but I feel the wind on my face when I am outside, and I turn the dial to wind my watch. They have different meanings and different words. I'll give a few more examples before I get to the greater point.

Here in America, we had a president named George Bush. He had gray hair. He was an old white guy that wore suits. He had a wife. He ordered combat in Iraq. I am speaking about one of these men: 

From the facts presented, do you deduce that these are the same man even though they are similar? Even those they come from the same root? Do you assume they are the same man because they held the same job and title? If you hold to this notion then what you start to do is bastardize history and make things inconsistent with history in the long run. Both of these men are George Bush but they're not the same. Why is this important?

People think that Horace the ancient Egyptian false god is Christ based on false similarities. They're making movies like Zeitgeist ( which is garbage by the way) asserting false claims about who the Messiah is based on some things being similar (even though most of the similarities are false) There are studies refuting these things. People say that the flood of Noah is just the story of Gilgamesh. People say that Samson was just Hercules. I have seen people get swept away in these types of things which are bad logic, deceptions and twisting of truths that seem true on the surface. Some people have left the faith because of little pockets of deception that sprung out of true sounding lies. Lets get back bad logic and narrow interpretations.Here is a comment that presented some very good reasoning to a narrow view of a passage

"Psalm 103:11-12 says, "For as high as the heavens are above the earth, so great is his love for those who fear him; as far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us." 

Based upon flat earth logic, earth has a dome. Thus the heavens are limited, which applying that to this verse means God's love for us is limited. In flat earth logic, there is an edge to earth. That means if I went east, I'd hit west and that would be the western edge. Same if I went the other way. Applying that logic to this verse, it would say that God's removal of our transgressions are limited. 
However, both of us would agree this isn't the case. God's love is infinite, and the removal of our sins is infinite. This is described by imagery of how the earth works. There is infinite space above us, and there is no edge to the earth. If I go east, I will always go east, even if I come back to my original spot. If I lifted up in a rocket, I'd hit infinite space. These ideas are poetically put into this passage to describe how great and grand God's love for us is."
Do you see how a conflict of scriptures is bound to arise when there are more than one way to consider a passage, and the one that is held to is held with bad logic? We're all in trouble if God has limited love.

Psalms 75:3 
“The earth and all who dwell in it melt; It is I who have firmly set its pillars. 

There are some who read the above passage as proof that the earth is flat and sitting on some sort of pillars.  Does their logic consider such things like, say Carlsbad caverns?

Are these not pillars under the earth? Are they not in caves? Does this mean that the earth is flat? No. Does it mean it's round? Not in of itself, but if you use that verse as logic to refute another point of view without accounting for other variables, one could find themselves in the danger of looking through the scriptures with tunnel vision and only looking to confirm what they believe instead of what probably is. This is called confirmation bias.

What about the logic in this, if we take this passage literally

The man said,
“This is now bone of my bones,
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called Woman,
Because she was taken out of Man.”
For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh- Gen. 2:23-24

If we apply the same literal narrow scope, we're to believe that when a couple says their vows they turn into something like this:

We'd also probably have to take it that he never sees his mom and dad again. This is bad logic. We know that they don't merge into one flesh. This is a symbolic meaning for a deep concept. This may seem silly, it may seem juvenile, it may even seen like a cartoon characterization of a point of view, but what if I told you that this was the type of logic that was used to tempt Christ in the wilderness?

6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down; for it is written,
‘He will command His angels concerning You’;
‘On their hands they will bear You up,
So that You will not strike Your foot against a stone.’”

Two scriptures, two passages of the Bible that are true and they are correct, but used with bad logic and twisted in such a way as to offer temptation to the Savior.  How many when offered these verses like this would be able to discern that they're being misapplied?  Some people might even accuse you of being anti-bible for not accepting the bad logic that is presented.  What was the response of the Savior?

 Jesus said to him, “On the other hand, it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’”

Here is another point that I see in a lot of circles in the misapplication of standards of logic and reason.  There are many that hold to these narrow views on certain passages to support an idea, but then go on to seemingly disregard such warnings as:

 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.- Rev 22
Every word of God is tested;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
6 Do not add to His words
Or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar.- Proverbs 30

Some hold to the idea that very narrow interpretations of specific scriptures are to be followed, then ignore these passage and insist that apocryphal books such as Enoch and Jasher be considered scripture. When you consider something scripture that isn't scripture you get all kinds of- not only off base doctrines, you get entire religions. This type of bad logic gave us the Mormon religion. Islam and the Quran.  When you take a set of verses out of context or base them on a very narrow and limited logic, then build upon those ideas, and you introduce other writings at some point you are not only in danger of drifting away from the truth, but you're in danger of leading others after your own folly. Just because it is mentioned in scripture does not make something well, Biblical. Herod is mentioned in scripture, that doesn't mean that I should make a doctrine killing anyone under the age of 2.

It all snowballs together.  Most recognize Peters warnings for the reading of Paul when he says
"Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless, 15 and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, 16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness, 18 but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen."- 1 Peter 3

The warning is that people will wield the Scriptures in a way that leads to bad things. Bad logic. Bad reasoning. Blaming a LaCrae video for having a triangle in it meaning that he's crossed over to the illuminati....even though there are other geometric shapes in the video ( Who knows, its show biz, maybe he did... but some parallelograms aren't enough for that kind of leap).

" And Jesus answered and said to them, “See to it that no one misleads you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes. 8 But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.
9 “Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. 10 At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another. 11 Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many."- Matt 24.

The context above is in relation to people actually claiming to be Christ in his return I believe, and many false prophets will arise teaching things that are not of Christ....   but, people are going to end up fallowing many of these falsehoods because they've swallowed little bits of bad logic and tiny deceptions that have caused them to start to look at these false teachers as teachers they think are teaching truth. There are people out there watching men with crazy eyes who excuse HITLER, literally ADOLPH HITLER, based on their misconceptions. Those types of bad reasoning lay the ground work for a FALSE Christ to step in, reaffirm the bad logic and twisted scriptures and false doctrine so that people who THOUGHT they were in a secure place are deceived into delivering other believers into tribulation, hate and death.

I have heard people say that we need to study out the occult in order to combat the works of Satan and guard against it/ This is really bad and dangerous logic. Isaiah says this:

 For thus the Lord spoke to me with mighty power and instructed me not to walk in the way of this people, saying,
12 “You are not to say, ‘It is a conspiracy!’
In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy,
And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it.
13 “It is the Lord of hosts whom you should regard as holy.
And He shall be your fear,
And He shall be your dread.

Are the Rothschilds and the Rockafellers and all the banks and the Koch brothers and all those people behind the banks pulling strings to plot against you and throw you in a FEMA camp???  Probably, man... who knows. What I do know is that the Words says that those who are destined for captivity will go to captivity and that that those destined for the swords will go to the sword. It also says that who among you by worrying can really do anything?  What are you gonna do, horde gold in your back yard? How are you gonna hoof it in the tribulation with that?  Where you gonna exchange it when the banks are after you? How does any of this weird stuff and trying to save your life by losing it really help preach Christ in the end?

At the bottom line, we lose the focus on patterning ourselves after the Messiah when we get stuck in these foolish controversies. When he says this in John 10

“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter by the door into the fold of the sheep, but climbs up some other way, he is a thief and a robber. 2 But he who enters by the door is a shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 When he puts forth all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5 A stranger they simply will not follow, but will flee from him, because they do not know the voice of strangers.” 6 This figure of speech Jesus spoke to them, but they did not understand what those things were which He had been saying to them.

We need to be more focused on the Voice of the Master than anything else.  Focus more on the God of the Word and not the worship of the actual words, and you should see harmony in both the Spirit and Truth.

Friday, January 5, 2018

The Enemy Within

You know how some people in the Church seem to have this idea that you shouldn't ever be contentious or direct or offensive? I'm not talking needlessly causing offense, I am talking about calling out people, rebukes, and warning people about things that rise up in the church that are a danger. We often hear about not judging others ever and how we're all supposed to love like we're all one big happy family where nothing is ever wrong. That family is more like the abusive family where the father is drunkenly beating the children while the mom just turns a blind eye and pretending that nothing is wrong as her kids have black eyes and arms in a sling. This isn't the way it supposed to be.
What do you see when you read these passages?

Acts 20:28 Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. 29 I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; 30 and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them. 31 Therefore be on the alert, remembering that night and day for a period of three years I did not cease to admonish each one with tears.

Do these passages not point to people in the church, among the brethren that are not themselves the brethren? In both Messianic circles and Christian alike, we have men and women who claim to be of God who offer strange fire in the form of certain doctrines. Some of these people seem less concerned about the truth than they do having a platform for their own point of view and persuasion. Most of these people aren't going to stand out like someone wearing all red and holding a pitch fork mind you. No, many of these people will present things that on the surface have the appearance of truth but are not rooted in the fullness of the faith. Here's the thing on that... when it comes time to address some in these ways, one of the first things that they may do, is call those who are speaking to the problems, projecting that they themselves are the problem.

“These things I have spoken to you so that you may be kept from stumbling. 2 They will make you outcasts from the synagogue, but an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God. 3 These things they will do because they have not known the Father or Me.
-John 16:1-3

A friend of mine names Jon once shared a quote with me that said something like, "the sheep are terrified of the sheepdog because he has fangs like a wolf does. Most do no realize that the sheepdog, though similar to the wolf, is there to protect the flock from the wolf. It knows how the wolf thinks."

A wolf pretending to be a sheep will sometimes point to the sheepdog and call them a wolf. I've seen it. I've experienced it. That is to say that there aren't going to be times when two people disagree on a topic, and that topic will get heated... therefore someone in the disagreement is a wolf or a sheepdog protector. That's just two people disagreeing. But to continue..

Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; 9 that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, 10 and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 11 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness. - 2 thes 2

John 6
64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him. 65 And He was saying, “For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father.” 66 As a result of this many of His disciples withdrew and were not walking with Him anymore. 67 So Jesus said to the twelve, “You do not want to go away also, do you?” 68 Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life. 69 We have believed and have come to know that You are the Holy One of God.” 70 Jesus answered them, “Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil?” 71 Now He meant Judas the son of Simon Iscariot, for he, one of the twelve, was going to betray Him.

From the start, one of the 1 was KNOWN to be the betrayer. Scripture states that people will put us out of our own churches.... because they didn't hold to the truth and we see here Judas was going to betray our Savior and he knew it from the start. There is this thing called a Judas goat. It's an animal that mixes in with the flock but its purpose is to lead the animals to the slaughter house. So it is with some so called brethren they speak words of flattery and maybe toss around a scripture or two yet encompass this:

How long will you assail a man, That you may murder him, all of you, Like a leaning wall, like a tottering fence? 4 They have counseled only to thrust him down from his high position;They delight in falsehood; They bless with their mouth, But inwardly they curse. Selah.

If some brothers are like Paul and Peter, in the sense that Paul openly rebuked peter and contended with him for the things that are right and correct, challenging the thoughts that Peter was things that were resulting in actions...  how many people in our own church would condemn Paul as stirring up strife or contention for calling out an idea that was not well?  How many people are in our churches that bless with their mouth but inwardly they curse? How many people hold to some self elevating pride and should you get anywhere near you, try to spin the conversation to make it sound like you are trying to shame them or tar and feather them or something.

I dont mention all of this to breed paranoia in the church, but quite the contrary. When the time comes and its coming sooner and sooner it would seem... that you're kicked out of a church for the right things, be it personal adherence to the Torah with Faith in the Messiah or for telling someone in authority of an area that needs to be addressed that they're preaching sin from a pulpit... take some heart because these things were spoken of. Dont lose faith.  When you see someone in the church with some weird doctrines who is looking for any platform they can find to speak them,  that gets mad at you when you point to the scriptures, and logic and reason that God gave us to refute the bad doctrines, and they accuse you of stirring controversy or strife... don't fall for it. Be without sin in addressing it.

Monday, December 11, 2017

From the Encyclopedia

"A winter festival was traditionally the most popular festival of the year in many cultures. Reasons included less agricultural work needing to be done during the winter, as well as people expecting longer days and shorter nights after the winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere. In part, the Christmas celebration was created by the early Church in order to entice pagan Romans to convert to Christianity without losing their own winter celebrations. Most of the most important gods in the religions of Ishtar and Mithra had their birthdays on December 25. Various Christmas traditions are considered to have been syncretised from winter festivals including the following:
In Roman times, the best-known winter festival was Saturnalia, which was popular throughout Italy. Saturnalia was a time of general relaxation, feasting, merry-making, and a cessation of formal rules. It included the making and giving of small presents (Saturnalia et Sigillaricia), including small dolls for children and candles for adults. During Saturnalia, business was postponed and even slaves feasted. There was drinking, gambling, and singing, and even public nudity. It was the "best of days," according to the poet Catullus. Saturnalia honored the god Saturn and began on December 17. The festival gradually lengthened until the late Republican period, when it was seven days (December 17-24). In imperial times, Saturnalia was shortened to five days.
Natalis Solis Invicti

The Romans held a festival on December 25 called Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, "the birthday of the unconquered sun." The use of the title Sol Invictus allowed several solar deities to be worshipped collectively, including Elah-Gabal, a Syrian sun god; Sol, the god of Emperor Aurelian (AD 270-274); and Mithras, a soldiers' god of Persian origin. Emperor Elagabalus (218-222) introduced the festival, and it reached the height of its popularity under Aurelian, who promoted it as an empire-wide holiday.

December 25 was also considered to be the date of the winter solstice, which the Romans called bruma. It was therefore the day the Sun proved itself to be "unconquered" despite the shortening of daylight hours. (When Julius Caesar introduced the Julian Calendar in 45 BC, December 25 was approximately the date of the solstice. In modern times, the solstice falls on December 21 or 22.) The Sol Invictus festival has a "strong claim on the responsibility" for the date of Christmas, according to the Catholic Encyclopedia. Several early Christian writers connected the rebirth of the sun to the birth of Jesus. "O, how wonderfully acted Providence that on that day on which that Sun was born . . . Christ should be born," Cyprian wrote.

Pagan Scandinavia celebrated a winter festival called Yule, held in the late December to early January period. Yule logs were lit to honor Thor, the god of thunder, with the belief that each spark from the fire represented a new pig or calf that would be born during the coming year. Feasting would continue until the log burned out, which could take as many as twelve days. In pagan Germania (not to be confused with Germany), the equivalent holiday was the mid-winter night which was followed by 12 "wild nights", filled with eating, drinking and partying. As Northern Europe was the last part to Christianize, its pagan celebrations had a major influence on Christmas. Scandinavians still call Christmas Jul. In English, the Germanic word Yule is synonymous with Christmas, a usage first recorded in 900"

Friday, December 1, 2017

Hey Grain-iac

At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath, and His disciples became hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat. 2 But when the Pharisees saw this, they said to Him, “Look, Your disciples do what is not lawful to do on a Sabbath.” -Matthew 12

 I've heard this passage quoted to me as a proof text that Jesus broke the sabbath dozens of times. I've had pastors of churches sit across the table from me over coffee and proclaim that Jesus broke the sabbath completely missing the gravity of  their absurd profession. Does it baffle anyone how many modern pastors are saying the same thing that those accusing the Savior were saying? How can Christ even be the sinless offering to redeem all of mankind if He HAD in fact, violated the Sabbath and was teaching others to do the same thing? It's the 4th commandment in the Big 10 rock legends.
Pastors are in churches every weekend, just like the Pharisees were. They were teaching from the word of God, just as these Pharisees were. Somehow these Pharisees missed this verse here:

When you enter your neighbor’s standing grain, then you may pluck the heads with your hand, but you shall not wield a sickle in your neighbor’s standing grain.- Deut 23:25

According to this verse,  the Savior and His Disciples ARE allowed to do what they were doing.

In the Pharisees were the ones teaching people what the scriptures say then and getting it wrong, could pastors today be teaching things and getting them wrong?
How would you know? You have the scriptures at your finger tips, literally clicks away. Do you know the truth if a man twists it, wittingly or unwittingly?

What else do we have contrasting the Pharisees interpretations of the scriptures and the Savior rebuking them for it?

The Pharisees and the scribes asked Him, “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat their bread with impure hands?”- Mark 7

What response does he give them?

And He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:

‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
7 ‘But in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.
8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition.- Mark 7

Now if these Pharisees, who were charged with teaching the commands of God could be rebuked by the Son of God for NOT following the Commands of God/ God's Law...

... Can the same be said about many pastors? Well:

preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths-  2 Tim 4

What if your Pastor says that Christ did away with the Law and the Prophets?
“Do NOT think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did NOT come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called LEAST in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.- Matthew 5, emphasis mine.

Well, does fulfill mean render as to not be observed once we are saved, or does your pastor interpret fulfill as to mean to not be followed?

Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’ -Matthew 7

Don't be a Grain-iac. Don't believe what someone tells you about certain non-biblical December celebrations that have their roots in pagan practices that the Word says not to learn, but a pastor says is ok. Don't forsake the commands of God/ God's Law, for your own traditions. Don't beat up people that tell you the truth about the word of God because it conflicts with the things you enjoy.

Saturday, November 11, 2017

Hey Flatty

Some people get stuck on an idea and then hammer scriptures in to a belief. 
These are the scriptures for flat earth... the "main ones" as it were, or so I've been told. I'm now going to go through them. Thank you for those of you whom I care enough about to put all this together so that I may never have to waste my time doing it again.

Genesis 1:1-5, 14-19

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.

Okay, God made the earth.  This scripture says literally nothing about the earth being a flat disc or the shape of a Vanilla Wafer ( Why did I love those so much as a kid. They're not the best cookies.... what was the deal... is it just because they were in the house and we kids were desperate for sugar? Idk but I digress). Flat is a form. Are people suggesting that being formless is the form of a coin? Coins are formed. This is speaking of Earth being formed out of nothing. Strong's H8414 defines formless as to mean :
To lie waste; a desolation (of surface), i.e. desert; figuratively, a worthless thing; adverbially, in vain:—confusion, empty place, without form, nothing, (thing of) nought, vain, vanity, waste, wilderness

Nothing about it being basically the end of "Dark City"

Side note, Something moving over the surface of the deep and the surface of the waters doesn't mean anything is flat. When I take a shower every day that water moves over the surface of my skin. This does not mean that I turn into some sort of creepy Dr. Who creature yelling Moisturize me as a flat flap of person.

 Then God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years; 15 and let them be for lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. 16 God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also. 17 God placed them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 and to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good. 19 There was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.

Yes, He made the moon and he made the stars and he made the sun. This still speaks nothing about the shape of the planet. It doesn't state the shape of the lights explicitly. I don't see flat earthers citing this passage for a giant glow stick in the night. I still haven't found anything in this that supports the idea that the earth is flat.

Genesis 1:6-8
(I don't know why we're skipping around, this is literally how the list was given to me so here we are)

Then God said, “Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.” God made the expanse, and separated the waters which were below the expanse from the waters which were above the expanse; and it was so. God called the expanse heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day.

This has an above and a below. Some would suggest that is a almost spherical shape. (sure I've had many squished burgers but they were still round-y) Top, bottom, middle stuff. That sounds globe-y. how did the gravity hold the bottom water??? How did top water no fall???

Joshua 10:12-13
Then Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the sons of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel,
“O sun, stand still at Gibeon,
And O moon in the valley of Aijalon.”
13 So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped,
Until the nation avenged themselves of their enemies.Is it not written in the book of Jashar? And the sun stopped in the middle of the sky and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day God performed a miracle and it resulted in the world being squished pancake style? This does nothing to talk about the shape of the earth. It's a prayer that God do something to help a fight, and is most likely the origins of every sports superstition in the history of ever. Are people trying to say that the sun and the moon never meet in the sky at the same time/ I can tell you that when I work graveyard shift and someone works second shift, we have an overlap of time.

Here we see the sun and moon in the same sky around shift change. This means literally nothing about the shape of the earth. In fact, many mornings when I got off of graveyard shift,  the sun would be in the sky overhead (above, not like noon day directly over me) and the moon would be off in the corner of the same sky waiting to punch out like "Hey, man, saw a lot on this shift, I'm ready to call it a DAY hahahaha amirite?"  None of this says ANYTHING about the shape of the earth.

Isaiah 40:21-23
Do you not know? Have you not heard?
Has it not been declared to you from the beginning?
Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth?
22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.
23 He it is who reduces rulers to nothing,
Who makes the judges of the earth meaningless

What's this? A shape? ah we're getting something here.

Strong's H2328

  1. circle, circuit, compass
  2. (BDB) vault (of the heavens)

He sits above the encompassed earth. He sits above the circuit of the earth, the earth rotates on a circut. This is a picture of God sitting above the TOTALITY of the earth. A sphere is a circle in all directions. 
Job 9:6
Who shakes the earth out of its place,
And its pillars tremble

Are you guys saying that the earth LITTERALLY is shaken off of a physical pillar? Because if you are, you're going to run into some problems  of the "scriptures are getting a little contradictory" type. Psalms  93:1
The Lord reigns; he is robed in majesty; the Lord is robed; he has put on strength as his belt. Yes, the world is established; it shall never be moved

So, Is the earth shaken off of it's fancy stick or is it established and shall never be moved?
Unless you're ready to start ripping pages out of your bible to fit your YouTube tailored theologies... one mindset is going to have to change and you're going to have to understand that certain passages are metaphorical.

Job 26:7, 10
“He stretches out the north over empty space
And hangs the earth on nothing.

“He has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters
At the boundary of light and darkness.

Okay, and??? This still doesn't say anything about the disc of the Earth. Again, A Sphere is a circle going in all directions. Let me ask you something really quick.... do you people think that Job is this immortal supernatural mystical being that existed in all space and time???

Job 38
“Where is the way to the dwelling of light?
And darkness, where is its place,
20 That you may take it to its territory
And that you may discern the paths to its home?
21 You know, for you were born then,
And the number of your days is great!
OMG stop the presses guyz, God said that Job iz immortal and ...wait.... no... There is no mention of him in Genesis... God MUST be using imagery to teach something to Job.  Where do we ever see God using a picture to explain something? Maybe Pete-y had some kind of Vision about animals and it WASNT LITTERALLY ABOUT ANIMALS, but instead was about calling FOLKS unclean. Do we then take that isolated passage, trim any context, and then throw a parade for the McRib? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! Please stop the bastardization of these texts.

Job 38:13
That it might take hold of the ends of the earth,
And the wicked be shaken out of it?

You guys, my nose is gonna start bleeding here I swear. I just posted from this VERY chapter that God is using imagery. Look at verse 29
“From whose womb has come the ice?
And the frost of heaven, who has given it birth?

Guys.... ICE DOES NOT come from a ladies nether parts, I don't care how bitter you are about your ex. These are IMAGERY texts to convey concepts.

Psalms 75:3
“The earth and all who dwell in it melt;
It is I who have firmly set its pillars.

You know who I feel bad for if we take pillars as literal things instead of a symbolic thing? I feel bad for the dude in Song of Songs. In 5 They talk about this dude...
“His hands are rods of gold
Set with beryl;
His abdomen is carved ivory
Inlaid with sapphires.
15 “His legs are pillars of alabaster
Set on pedestals of pure gold

If we take Psalms 75:3 as a literal interpretation, then that means that there was some dude with gold stick arms poopin out sapphires from his elephant tusk midsection. I would have difficulty inviting that man to a dinner party as he would certain freak out the guests. how is there not entire volumes of the tin man? No other mention of the biblical Cyberman? ( I need to cool it, I that's two Who references in one post)

Psalms 96:10
Say among the nations, “The Lord reigns;
Indeed, the world is firmly established, it will not be moved;
He will judge the peoples with equity.”

The Earth will not be moved?

Oh NO!!! The Bible's a lie!!! See this here Earth mover??? It.... MOVES EARTH!!!

Unless that verse is talking about something else...


Psalms 104:5-6
He established the earth upon its foundations,
So that it will not totter forever and ever.
You covered it with the deep as with a garment;
The waters were standing above the mountains.Oh, you mean like say... if the earth has an AXIS that it spins on?

1 Chronicles 16:30
Tremble before Him, all the earth;
Indeed, the world is firmly established, it will not be moved.

yes, it is firmly established in its rotation and in its orbit. If the earth went say, spiraling out of it's place then everyone would either freeze to death like some mountain house dehydrated foodstuffs, or burn to death like the molten hot center of a pizza bite right out of the microwave ( I don't use the oven, it takes too long, don't judge me)

Matthew 4:8-10
Again, the devil *took Him to a very high mountain and *showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory; and he said to Him, “All these things I will give You, if You fall down and worship me.”
10 Then Jesus *said to him,
“Go, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and serve Him only.’”

I MIGHT consider taking that literally if you can show me a video from the top of any mountain that contains an ACTUAL view of EVERY kingdom of the world.

I work at a building that has 18 floors. I have keys to the roof. I have gone on the top of that roof.


I dunno what kinda devil powers he's got, but I know that on the top of my work, I as a man, cannot show you where my house is. I also can't show you where the Olive garden is across town. The building is plenty tall and the earth is NOT flat

It's worth noting that the same people that bend over backwards to take specific verses as being literal, do not apply that same standard to texts like say, This:

The man said,
This is now bone of my bones,
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called Woman,
Because she was taken out of Man.”
For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh- Gen. 2:23-24

Nobody, and I really mean nobody, believes that the moment that moment that a man and wife say the words "I do" at a wedding, that their guts start some sort of fusion process and they stop being two individuals but become this one sort of humanoid mutant glob of elbows and organs. That is not a real thing.  

Saturday, September 30, 2017


Here's Septembers post a full 28 days late. If you're someone who follows this blog and is looking for consistency, I apologize and would encourage you to stick around while not looking for that kind of consistency.

Without further ado, Here's most of my testimony.

Tuesday, August 22, 2017

To Boldly Go..

Last month I posted about boldness in standing up to "authority" in regards to safeguarding the Truth. I mentioned that would tie in to this months post. I have been wanting to write this months post many times over the past few weeks but I haven't as, the conversation I've had with God went something like this:

God: Your next post is going to be about being bold in regards to having the courage to search your own heart in regards to sin.

Me: Oh, yeah lots of people have that problem. That is a great idea for a post.


Me: Totally, more people need to search their hearts because everyone tends to get so calloused you know...

God: *sternly looks directly at me*

Me: ... you know... ... they...  ... because... ... them.

God: Get to work.

Me:*looks at heart*  I am so so so so so so so flawed.

I often have it in my mind, " I know I'm flawed, but maybe I'm not that flawed"  That is such dangerous thinking. It puts me in a mindset that is to look at others and judge myself better than they are, and that isn't right. I should be comparing myself to the Savior, because then I am at least without illusion of my flaw. I am not very Christlike. I know a lot of scriptures, and I can be very generous... but what of it? There is no verse that commands by our Master's breath that I be better outwardly than my neighbor, while inside I slowly lose perspective.  I do sometimes, lose perspective. Sometimes I carry with me the pains that others cause me when I am supposed to forgive regardless. Forgiveness...  just the word brings up in my mind a dozens of clever talking points and conversational loopholes that I have heard said or said myself.

"They haven't  acknowledged what they've done, so I can't forgive them until they do"

If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. - Matt 18

Therefore if you are presenting your offering at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your offering there before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and present your offering- Matt 5

Either way you slice it, if you have something and you're not seeking to make it right, or you know of something you should be seeking to make it right. It takes courage and boldness to look in your heart and stab your own pride. It takes courage to allow yourself to be uncomfortable and experience vulnerability in seeking restoration. When we avoid take a hard look at ourselves we're like someone who was stabbed and pretends that we aren't. In order to heal, we need stitches, and in order for that, we need to remove the knife. In order to remove the knife, we have to acknowledge that we've been stabbed in the first place.  Love is a hard and dangerous thing that kills parts of us. We grow back, if we grow, stronger because of it. There is this quote by C.S. Lewis:

"There is no safe investment. To love at all is to be vulnerable. Love anything, and your heart will certainly be wrung and possibly be broken. If you want to make sure of keeping it intact, you must give your heart to no one, not even to an animal. Wrap it carefully round with hobbies and little luxuries; avoid all entanglements; lock it up safe in the casket or coffin of your selfishness. But in that casket – safe, dark, motionless, airless – it will change. It will not be broken; it will become unbreakable, impenetrable, irredeemable. The alternative to tragedy, or at least to the risk of tragedy, is damnation. The only place outside Heaven where you can be perfectly safe from all the dangers and perturbations of love is Hell.”

We're called to love each other, Like the Messiah, our Savior, our Redeemer, our Bridegroom does.
I don't even know what else to say this month because I've just been... not great.

Suffering produces character. There is some hope in all this.

To run from things because they might hurt is like a plant that chooses to die rather than be pruned by the gardener, for its own good, to flourish, and to produce fruit.

...lemons are fruit...