Friday, February 9, 2024

Breakdown of Jude

What is Jude talking about ?

For certain people have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into indecent behavior and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

 People that are appearing to be of Salvation, that are trusting that they are secure and are actually marked for destruction.  This is used is example in several following verses, noting the context is those who presume to be secure, and are then destroyed. 

 Now I want to remind you, though you know everything once and for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe. - Jude 

Taken from a place - Egypt   
Then- Destroyed 


Of note is that in this following verse, it is the only place angels are mentioned, where as translators add the word angels in two other verses to reconstruct the meaning of the text to be a doctrine regarding angels rather than about those who are putting trust in something other than God and following through with faith obedience.
 And angels who did not keep their own domain but abandoned their proper dwelling place, these He has kept in eternal restraints under darkness for the judgment of the great day


Angels had a place- Heaven 
Then- Chained in darkness for judgement day 

 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in sexual perversion and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.- Jude


A secure place - Sodom and Gomorrah  
Then- like the cities surrounding were destroyed for sexual deviance 

 People try to take verses 6,7, and 8 to be speaking about angels falling and engaging in sex presumably to try and build a case for fallen angels being sons of God and drawing off of extrabiblical enoch text... but a huge problem is that the word angels or angelic isn't in verse 7 and 8 and as is done with other passages like Job- assumptions are made and then built upon.  Jude states that the angels are in darkness awaiting judgement day, Enoch says that they are cast to earth, develops genitals , enter covenant relationships with earth women rather than fornicate, and sire a race of have angel- half human breed of Giants. In the effort to shoehorn this text to make it say something to affirm that doctrine 


Yet in the same way these people also, dreaming, defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak abusively of majesties. 9 But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him an abusive judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” 10 But these people disparage all the things that they do not understand; and all the things that they know by instinct, like unreasoning animals, by these things they are destroyed. - Jude 

Again. the context is a reverence for God and not a debased fleshly assurance or slander. Rather than this being an Extrabiblical showdown of the angels and the Devil of which we would have to look elsewhere than the scripture to find, I find that the reasoned explanation is that the body of Moses in question is not the physical bones of the Prophet, but rather a reference to the church and the argument with Joshua the High priest.

 Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right to accuse him. 2 And the Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, Satan! Indeed, the Lord who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a log snatched from the fire?” 3 Now Joshua was clothed in filthy garments and was standing before the angel. 4 And he responded and said to those who were standing before him, saying, “Remove the filthy garments from him.” Again he said to him, “See, I have taken your guilt away from you and will clothe you with festive robes.” 5 Then I said, “Have them put a clean headband on his head.” So they put the clean headband on his head and clothed him with garments, while the angel of the Lord was standing by.- Zechariah 3:1-5
He continues to say that in obedience faithfulness leads to being a member of the house of God 


 And the angel of the Lord admonished Joshua, saying, 7 “The Lord of armies says this: ‘If you walk in My ways and perform My service, then you will both govern My house and be in charge of My courtyards, and I will grant you free access among these who are standing here. - Zechariah 3:6-7
Note that this interpretation, without sensational interpretation, now fits not only within the bounds of established scripture but also fits with the context of Jude in that it is about humbly serving God and that faithfulness will be rewarded INSTEAD of spewing slander and turning aside to the works of the flesh. 
 
Woe to them! For they have gone the way of Cain, and for pay they have given themselves up to the error of Balaam, and perished in the rebellion of Korah. 12 These are the ones who are hidden reefs in your love feasts when they feast with you without fear, like shepherds caring only for themselves; clouds without water, carried along by winds; autumn trees without fruit, doubly dead, uprooted; 13 wild waves of the sea, churning up their own shameful deeds like dirty foam; wandering stars, for whom the gloom of darkness has been reserved forever. -Jude 
Who was Cain, He was man who was offering sacrifices to God who was warned by God that sin was looking to rule over him but he must master it, just like the context of these men in Jude that they must not trust in anything but God and continue in faithfulness not trusting in self or or position or place or even man made doctrine.  Now lets look at an objection regarding a prophesy that people say is quoting from extrabiblical sources such as Enoch:
 
  It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying,Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones, 15 to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
  • the Lord
  • with Holy Ones
  • and to repay the ungodly of their deeds 

Matthew  16:27 
For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.
  • The Lord
  • with holy ones 
  • repaying the ungodly of their deeds

Psalms 149

For the Lord takes pleasure in His people; He will beautify the afflicted ones with salvation. 5 Let the godly ones exult in glory; Let them sing for joy on their beds. 6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, And a two-edged sword in their hand, 7 To execute vengeance on the nations And punishment on the peoples,  8 To bind their kings with chains And their nobles with fetters of iron,9 To execute on them the judgment written;This is an honor for all His godly ones. Praise the Lord!


  • The Lord 
  • With Holy ones
  • repaying the ungodly for their deeds

 Matthew 25 

“But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; 33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. ... 40 The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’

41 “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; ... 44 Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

  • The Lord
  • With Holy ones
  • repaying the ungodly for their deeds

2 Thessalonians 1

This is a plain indication of God’s righteous judgment so that you will be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which indeed you are suffering. 6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, 7 and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, 8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed—for our testimony to you was believed.

  •  The Lord 
  • With Holy ones 
  • repaying ungodly for their deeds. 

As seen here the Judes prophesy is found in scripture without Enoch. Enoch being used to doesn't mean that Christ or Jude thought that Enoch was scripture any more than Paul citing Pagan philosophers and poets to convey a utilitarian truth. 

Pagan authors quoted or alluded to are:

Menander, Thais 218, quoting Euripides,"Evil company corrupts good habits" (1 Corinthians 15:33)

Epimenides, de Oraculis, (Titus 1–12:13) where Paul introduces Epimenides as "a prophet of the Cretans"; see Epimenides paradox)

Aratus, Phaenomena 5, (Acts 17:28 where Paul refers to the words of "some of your own poets")

None of these are scripture or considered scripture and it would be wrong to do so. 



Acts 17 

 The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; 25 nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things; 26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, 27 that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’ 29 Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man. 30 Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”

Returning back to Jude we can see that Jude is quite likely referencing Zechariah in context with the mentioning of the garments 

But you, beloved, ought to remember the words that were spoken beforehand by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ, 18 that they were saying to you, “In the last time there will be mockers, following after their own ungodly lusts.” 19 These are the ones who cause divisions, worldly-minded, devoid of the Spirit. 20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking forward to the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life. 22 And have mercy on some, who are doubting; 23 save others, snatching them out of the fire; and on some have mercy with fear, hating even the garment polluted by the flesh.- Jude

The unclean garment, just like in Zechariah taking the unclean and giving clean

 “See, I have taken your guilt away from you and will clothe you with festive robes.” 5 Then I said, “Have them put a clean headband on his head.” So they put the clean headband on his head and clothed him with garments, while the angel of the Lord was standing by -Zechariah 3:4-5
In conclusion Jude is not about angel sex or quoting a prophecy from an external source its about our security not being in a place, a doctrine, ourselves, or our flesh. It is found in Christ alone, and we must be faithful and humble that He clothed in Him and His righteousness. 

24 Now to Him who is able to protect you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory, blameless with great joy, 25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority before all time and now and forever. Amen.

 Amen. 

Sunday, January 14, 2024

Jude's Prophesy

Jude 1:14

  It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying,Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones, 15 to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
  • the Lord
  • with Holy Ones
  • and to repay the ungodly of their deeds 

Matthew  16:27 
For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.
  • The Lord
  • with holy ones 
  • repaying the ungodly of their deeds

Psalms 149

For the Lord takes pleasure in His people; He will beautify the afflicted ones with salvation. 5 Let the godly ones exult in glory; Let them sing for joy on their beds. 6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, And a two-edged sword in their hand, 7 To execute vengeance on the nations And punishment on the peoples,  8 To bind their kings with chains And their nobles with fetters of iron,9 To execute on them the judgment written;This is an honor for all His godly ones. Praise the Lord!


  • The Lord 
  • With Holy ones
  • repaying the ungodly for their deeds

 Matthew 25 

“But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; 33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. ... 40 The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’

41 “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; ... 44 Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

  • The Lord
  • With Holy ones
  • repaying the ungodly for their deeds

2 Thessalonians 1

This is a plain indication of God’s righteous judgment so that you will be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which indeed you are suffering. 6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, 7 and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, 8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed—for our testimony to you was believed.

  •  The Lord 
  • With Holy ones 
  • repaying ungodly for their deeds. 

As seen here the Judes prophesy is found in scripture without Enoch. Enoch being used to doesn't mean that Christ or Jude thought that Enoch was scripture any more than Paul citing Pagan philosophers and poets to convey a utilitarian truth. 

Pagan authors quoted or alluded to are:

Menander, Thais 218, quoting Euripides,"Evil company corrupts good habits" (1 Corinthians 15:33)

Epimenides, de Oraculis, (Titus 1–12:13) where Paul introduces Epimenides as "a prophet of the Cretans"; see Epimenides paradox)

Aratus, Phaenomena 5, (Acts 17:28 where Paul refers to the words of "some of your own poets")

None of these are scripture or considered scripture and it would be wrong to do so. 



Acts 17 

 The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; 25 nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things; 26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, 27 that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’ 29 Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man. 30 Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”



Thursday, January 11, 2024

A SCRIPTURAL profile of Nephilim

Often it is said that there are two theories about who the Nephilim were and who were the Sons of God. Based on texts that are not the Bible, some have interpreted sons of God to mean fallen angels and the Nephilim as to be the sons of those fallen angels. Those that disagree with that interpretation are usually labeled as holding the Sethite view, that the sons of God were just a righteous lineage of Seth who replaced the slewn Abel as a son of Adam. However, what I am seeing is that neither are quite accurate as I intend to show you. Its not lineage at all, its  heart and obedience. The only lineage element is when the unrepentant sins of the fathers being adapted as sins of the sons also. Lets get started as there is a bit do go over.   

 נְפִיל nᵉphîyl, nef-eel'; or נְפִל nᵉphil; from H5307; properly, a feller, i.e. a bully or tyrant:—giant.





The root word shows its not about sky giants, but its about those who fall away from obedience and faith, ceasing to be cultivators, they become destroyers.... hunters. Orion is the constellation for the hunter. As the Hebrew- Chaldee Lexicon shows, it is incorrect to ascribe the Nephilim to be large in body over the definition of being bully/tyrant/ hunters that strike down- Fellers of men and armies. I'll get to the large in body in a moment but we can see the definitions as cast down like excommunication, or cut down like death as in extinguishing a life, or in some aspects to seemingly just lay down as is surrender like one would abandoning the faith.
  


We can see examples of these hunters that reject the ways of God and embrace actively walking contrary to them. 

Gen 8 Cain told Abel his brother. And it came about when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and killed him.

9 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” And he said, “I do not know. Am I my brother’s keeper?” 10 He said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood is crying to Me from the ground. 11 Now you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you cultivate the ground, it will no longer yield its strength to you; you will be a vagrant and a wanderer on the earth.” Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden.



Cain  parallels Esau

 Gen 27 :39 Then Isaac his father answered and said to him, “Behold, away from the fertility of the earth shall be your dwelling, And away from the dew of heaven from above. 40 “By your sword you shall live, And your brother you shall serve; But it shall come about when you become restless, That you will break his yoke from your neck.” 41 So Esau bore a grudge against Jacob because of the blessing with which his father had blessed him; and Esau said to himself, “The days of mourning for my father are near; then I will kill my brother Jacob.” 

It isn't a Linage that made men Nephilim, it is actions. It is a heart posture that abandons faith and walks in the ways contrary to God. 

1 John 3 
11 For this is the message which you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another; 12 not as Cain, who was of the evil one and slew his brother. And for what reason did he slay him? Because his deeds were evil, and his brother’s were righteous. 

Malachi 1: 2 “I have loved you,” says the Lord. But you say, “How have You loved us?” “Was not Esau Jacob’s brother?” declares the Lord. “Yet I have loved Jacob; 3 but I have hated Esau, and I have made his mountains a desolation and appointed his inheritance for the jackals of the wilderness.”

Who's son was Cain? Was it not Adam's Son? The designation of being a son is based on ACTION. 

Gen 4:Now the man had relations with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain, and she said, “I have gotten a manchild with the help of the Lord.”

Cain was born to Adam and Eve but he was cut off from the family based on his actions and rejection of the ways of God, and he BECAME and killer, Tyrant, Bully, Mighty one, Feller of his brother... He became a Nephilim. The son of Cain, followed in his fathers footsteps in the rejection of the ways of God, as Lamech engages in polygamy and murder

Gen4:19 Lamech took to himself two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other, Zillah. ... 23 Lamech said to his wives, “Adah and Zillah, Listen to my voice, You wives of Lamech, Give heed to my speech, For I have killed a man for wounding me;  And a boy for striking me; 24 If Cain is avenged sevenfold, Then Lamech seventy-sevenfold.”

 

Gen 28:8  So Esau saw that the daughters of Canaan displeased his father Isaac; 9 and Esau went to Ishmael, and married, besides the wives that he had, Mahalath the daughter of Ishmael, Abraham’s son, the sister of Nebaioth.


Gen 10 
8 Now Cush became the father of Nimrod; he became a mighty one on the earth. 9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord; therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod a mighty hunter before the Lord.” 10 The beginning of his kingdom was Babel and Erech and Accad and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.
 1 Chron 1:10 Cush fathered Nimrod; he began to be a mighty one on the earth.


What does Nimrod mean? 


It means "rebellion". Nimrod was a "Mighty one," Genesis 6:4 states that the mighty ones were men of renown. Men. Men of violence.  He was a hunter just like Esau who wanted to kill his brother. He was in rebellion like Cain who rejected the ways of God. He founded Babylon which was a testament to Man instead of God. 


Gen 27 :39 Then Isaac his father answered and said to him, “Behold, away from the fertility of the earth shall be your dwelling, And away from the dew of heaven from above. 40 “By your sword you shall live, And your brother you shall serve; But it shall come about when you become restless, That you will break his yoke from your neck.” 41 So Esau bore a grudge against Jacob because of the blessing with which his father had blessed him; and Esau said to himself, “The days of mourning for my father are near; then I will kill my brother Jacob.” 



Look at Goliath as he was one of these mighty ones, 


 1 Samuel 17:Then a champion came out from the armies of the Philistines named Goliath, from Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span. 5 He had a bronze helmet on his head, and he was clothed with scale-armor which weighed five thousand shekels of bronze. 6 He also had bronze greaves on his legs and a bronze javelin slung between his shoulders. 7 The shaft of his spear was like a weaver’s beam, and the head of his spear weighed six hundred shekels of iron; his shield-carrier also walked before him. 


His gear was about 2-300 lbs  for a man of 7 to 9ft. he was a destroyer, one that made a reputation as a champion of the philistines, a killer, a feller of armies and men. Goliath was a descendant of Anak 

  • Numbers 13 interprets the Nephilim as giants,
  • Numbers 13 connects the Nephilim with the sons of Anak (the Anakim).
  •  Joshua 11 notes that the Anakim were driven to into Gaza, Gath, and Ashdod.
  • 1 Samuel 17 says Goliath was from Gath and that he was a giant.

Why are their giants? Why do they have 6 fingers and toes?  The answer to this is so simple its easy to overlook. Sin.  Deuteronomy 27 just to name a few things 


  • Cursed is he who dishonors his father or mother.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’
  •  ‘Cursed is he who strikes his neighbor in secret.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’

  • ‘Cursed is he who accepts a bribe to strike down an innocent person.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’
  • ‘Cursed is he who does not confirm the words of this law by doing them.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’


it continues in the next chapter 

  • “The Lord will send upon you curses, confusion, and rebuke, in all you undertake to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, on account of the evil of your deeds, because you have forsaken Me. 21 The Lord will make the pestilence cling to you until He has consumed you from the land where you are entering to possess it. 22 The Lord will smite you with consumption and with fever and with inflammation and with fiery heat and with the sword and with blight and with mildew, and they will pursue you until you perish

  •  “If you are not careful to observe all the words of this law which are written in this book, to fear this honored and awesome name, the Lord your God, 59 then the Lord will bring extraordinary plagues on you and your descendants, even severe and lasting plagues, and miserable and chronic sicknesses.

Sin and rebellion against the ways of God, Faith in God, and loving God, and walking with God, results in disease and hereditary afflictions such as but not limited to Gigantisms which is a tumor on the pituitary gland, and Polydactyly. Deuteronomy 28 gives us reasons for the genetic attributes of Giants- but it is the CHOICE of ACTION and the REJECTION of GOD and GOD'S WAYS that make them Nephilim. Look back at the context of Genesis 6 


6 Now it came about, when men [ Human men]  began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them [Secular daughters of these human men] , 2 that the sons of God [Believers] saw that the daughters of men[ Secular women] were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man [ Human men] forever, because he also is flesh[ still human men]; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”
Men were being lead away from the faith and obedience by enticing women, JUST  LIKE WITH BALAAM 
{Numbers 31 And Moses said to them, “Have you spared all the women? 16 Behold, these caused the sons of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, so the plague was among the congregation of the Lord. }


 4 The Nephilim [ Hunter/ Bully / Tyrant/ Murderers] were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.







5 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 The Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 The Lord said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.

9 These are the records of the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his time; Noah walked with God. 10 Noah became the father of three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

11 Now the earth was corrupt in the sight of God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 God looked on the earth, and behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way upon the earth. 13 Then God said to Noah, “The end of all flesh has come before Me; for the earth is filled with violence because of them; and behold, I am about to destroy them with the earth. 




Adam was a shepherd, cultivator who beared the image of God 
Abel was a shepherd and offered what was good and his deed were righteous before God 
Noah was a shepherd and found favor in the eyes of God doing what is good. 
Jacob was a shepherd cultivator who didn't choose multiple wives he was tricked into it 
David was s shepherd and a cultivator 

Cain rejected the ways of God and became a killer - decultivator 
Esau rejected the ways of God and became a hunter- decultivator
Nimrod was a mighty one that made Babel in defiance of God and was a hunter- decultivator 

What we see in Genesis 6 is not angel demon babies being born and the union of spirits and women resulting in God killing all the men in the world but it being about violence for some reason. What we see is that Actions, choices... that is what makes one a son of God 


Even Josephus  in Antiquities of the Jews points to this in regards to Nimrod he writes:

God also commanded them to send colonies abroad, for the through peopling of the earth; that they might not raise seditions among themselves, but might cultivate a great part of the earth, and enjoy its fruits after a plentiful manner. But they were so ill instructed, that they did not obey God. For which reason they fell into calamities, and were made sensible by experience of what sin they had been guilty of. For when they flourished with a numerous youth, God admonished them again to send out colonies. But they imagining the prosperity they enjoyed was not derived from the favour of God, but supposing that their own power was the proper cause of the plentiful condition they were in, did not obey him. Nay they added to this their disobedience to the divine will, the suspicion that they were therefore ordered to send out separate colonies, that, being divided asunder, they might the more easily be oppressed. 2. Now it was Nimrod who excited them to such an affront and contempt of God. He was the grand-son of Ham, the son of Noah: a bold man, and of great strength of hand. He persuaded them not to ascribe it to God, as if it was through his means that they were happy; but to believe that it was their own courage which procured that happiness. He also gradually changed the government into tyranny; seeing no other way of turning men from the fear of God, but to bring them into a constant dependence on his own power. He also said, “He would be revenged on God, if he should have a mind to drown the world again: for that he would build a Tower too high for the waters to be able to reach; and that he would avenge himself on God for destroying their fore-fathers.


Nimrod, this mighty one - this Nephilim- Is creating violence against the ones who are obedient farmers in the faith, for the purpose of getting them to reject God, and become dependant upon his hand. Another way of saying this is that "the Nephilim were on the earth, and made violence against God imposing tyranny and lead the sons of God astray" 

  • 1 John 3:10, By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.
  •   Deut 14:1-2,You are the sons of the Lord your God; you shall not cut yourselves nor shave your forehead for the sake of the dead. 2 For you are a holy people to the Lord your God, and the Lord has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.
  •  Romans 8:14,14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
  •  Romans 8:19,  For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.
  • Romans 9:25-27, As He says also in Hosea,  “I will call those who were not My people, ‘My people,’ And her who was not beloved, ‘beloved.’” 26 “And it shall be that in the place where it was said to them, ‘you are not My people,’ There they shall be called sons of the living God.” 27 Isaiah cries out concerning Israel, “Though the number of the sons of Israel be like the sand of the sea, it is the remnant that will be saved;
  • Galatians 3:26, For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
  • Galatians 4:6,  Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”
  • Luke 6:35,  But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men.
  •  1 Chron 17:13-16,  I will be his father and he shall be My son; and I will not take My lovingkindness away from him, as I took it from him who was before you. 14 But I will settle him in My house and in My kingdom forever, and his throne shall be established forever.”’” 15 According to all these words and according to all this vision, so Nathan spoke to David.16 Then David the king went in and sat before the Lord and said, “Who am I, O Lord God, and what is my house that You have brought me this far?
  •  Luke 20:34-36 Jesus said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage, 35 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; 36 for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.


    There are no verses that say Angels are sons of God anywhere in scripture unless the reader inserts it into the text based not on the Word of God, but based on their own suppositions from outside the word of God 

    Job 1, and 2 are referencing the faithful obedient men of God appearing before the Lord at the 3 appointed feasts. As it states in Exodus 23 and 34

     17 Three times a year all your males(sons) shall appear before the Lord God.
    23 Three times a year all your males are to appear before the Lord God, the God of Israel. 24 For I will drive out nations from you and enlarge your borders, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times a year to appear before the Lord your God.


     If we take Job 38 where God is condescending concepts to Job and mentions stars singing and Sons of God, we still would have to inject angels as one of these two things- in a poetic passage that also states that ice comes from "lady parts". This would also indicate that God wasn't down dressing Job verbally, but that Job was actually at creation during its formation as God says "tell me who laid the foundation because surely you were there". Its a hyperliteralism fallacy.  


    So to recap, No sons of God aren't angels falling and taking earth wives and making giant babies.  Nor are the sons of God just a specific line of Seth. Its what it means to be adopted sons of God. Grafted in to His house. 

Tuesday, December 12, 2023

Fallen Dominion.

 A commentary on Genesis and Dominion. 


Our God is a God of order.


When we think about the creation of man back in the garden God decided to make Man in His image. HE made Man and gave him dominion over the earth. Was this dominion to control and oppress the creatures that God had just made in a form of harsh slaveship? I don't think so. He created man and had him give all the animals names and he was to cultivate the earth. Cultivate, dominion. TO tend to the ground and care for it that it may yield fruit the way it is intended to. 

Now no shrub of the field was yet in the earth, and no plant of the field had yet sprouted, for the Lord God had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.


 The Lord God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed. Man's purpose before the fall was to exercise his dominion 


The Lord God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed. 9 Out of the ground the Lord God caused to grow every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.



 Then the Lord God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it

He wasn't oppressing the land by tending his dominion. He was operating in his Divinely assigned role. God did not make woman first and give her this role of dominion over the earth. God did not make woman at the same moment as man to share in this dominion.  Instead, Man was alone in his dominion and God said it wasn't good that he be in solitude/ alone. 


Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called a living creature, that was its name. 20 The man gave names to all the cattle, and to the birds of the sky, and to every beast of the field, but for Adam there was not found a helper suitable for him.

Still within the dominion of Adam, in his reflection of the Creator, he is ruling and giving names to that which is in his dominion. God puts a sleep over Adam and instead of creating independently from the dirt again as with Adam and giving her the same dominion and creation as Adam- God takes the woman from the rib of Adam.  

 So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place. 22 The Lord God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man. 23 The man said,  “This is now bone of my bones, And flesh of my flesh;  She shall be called Woman,  Because she was taken out of Man.”

Who gives woman her name? Adam. Who gives Adam his name? God.  The reflection of God is present in this creation. She is created by God and by Adam. Adam not only titles her woman, but gives her the name Eve as is his role given to him by God, of dominion. 


 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

It is stated that Man is the covering over the woman just as the example of The Father being over Christ, The King being over the Bride, so is the Husband over the Wife. The royal kingdom set up of a king and queen has the king ruling with the queen at his side- yet he is still the one in dominion. 

 For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. 8 For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man; 9 for indeed man was not created for the woman’s sake, but woman for the man’s sake -1 Cor 11

When God gave the command to not eat of the tree He didn't give it to the woman. 

Then the Lord God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it. 16 The Lord God commanded the man, saying, “From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; 17 but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.”


Who is the first person to add to the commands of God?  The woman 

 2 The woman said to the serpent, “From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat; 3 but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.’”


For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loin coverings.

The woman was deceived, but the scripture points out that sin entered through Adam. 

The Lie was that it will:

  • open your eyes 
  • make you like God 
  • know good and evil 

The Temptation was that :

  • "good for food"
  • "delight to the eyes"
  • "make one wise


One of the definitions of Know/yada is to declare. Mankind has been declaring good and evil instead of what GOD defines as good and evil, and this includes the roles given to us by God. We have opened our eyes to sin, and have made ourselves like God in our declaration.  It is for this reason there is such indignation by the Savior to the Pharisees who set aside the commands of God for the sake of their own traditions- going so far as to say that they declare what is and isn't food based on ritual hand washing traditions of the elders. The delight of self made wisdom rather than the wisdom of God. 

They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 Then the Lord God called to the man, and said to him, “Where are you?” 

God walking in the garden does not call out "Egalitarian couple of equality, where would both of you be located?" He calls out to the man as it was his duty and role to walk in the dominion of which he was given.  

10 He said, “I heard the sound of You in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid myself.” 11 And He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?” 12 The man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me from the tree, and I ate.” 13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” And the woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

Adam, instead of accepting the responsibility for his choice to disobey God, BLAMES HIS WIFE even though ADAM was not the one deceived by the Serpent because Adam  had the command directly from the mouth of God. Adam had ceased to reflect the nature of God's guardianship by ignoring the word of God and surrendering his dominion. 

To the woman He said, “I will greatly multiply Your pain in childbirth, In pain you will bring forth children;  Yet your desire will be for your husband, And he will rule over you.”

The Judgement of God to the woman is that she will have pain in childbirth (which she still does) and Her desire will be for her husband (dominion) but He shall rule over her( Dominion). We know this is the right meaning  that the desire is to be in dominion over her husband as its used in the next chapter  as with Cain and his sin offering. Compare:


To the woman He said, “I will greatly multiply Your pain in childbirth, In pain you will bring forth children;  Yet your desire (H8669 tᵊšûqâ) will be for your husband, And he will rule  (H4910  māšal)over you.” 

 If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire (H8669 tᵊšûqâ) is for you, but you must master (H4910 māšal) it.”

But what does God say to the man? 

Then to Adam He said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat from it’; Cursed is the ground because of you;In toil you will eat of it All the days of your life. 18 “Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you;  And you will eat the plants of the field; 19 By the sweat of your face You will eat bread, Till you return to the ground,  Because from it you were taken; For you are dust, And to dust you shall return.”

God states clearly that because Adam took the Egalitarian position and passed his dominion role over and followed his wifes doctrine given to her by the serpent, That now his role is going to be much much much harder. The ground is cursed because of Adam. The arena of his dominion has been infected 

Again I highlight the Pharisees issue of calling eating bread unclean if you eat it with unwashed hands... as it seems to completely dismiss the decree of God that one will toil in the dirt and eat the bread. 


Now, in the context of Adam and the Dominion of which He was supposed to lead and guard and care and cultivate both the ground- which is polluted by sin based on Adams dominion, and care for his wife, who was given to him to help reflect the image of God let's look at a few passages. 

 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned - Romans 5:12

Eve didn't doom humanity, Adam did. Adam is who I see at fault. Adam chose, He was not deceived. 


NOW look at 1 Timothy 2

 12 But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13 For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. 14 And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 

Paul is making direct reference to Adam and Eve in the Divine order of dominion not as a personal opinion but in the order that God instructs. God did not create man to destroy the world, but to give him careful dominion and stewardship that full prosperity may be maintained. The reason that women are scripturally not permitted to be in authority over men and be pastors is that it is a direct reference to this. God spoke to the man, man spoke to the woman. God led the man, man led ( or was supposed to ) the woman. NOW look at the example in scripture even closer in this context of Ephesians 5

22 Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. 24 But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless. 28 So husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself; 29 for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church, 30 because we are members of His body. 


Just as Adam was given Dominion to care for and steward the earth he was given his wife to care for watch over, TO WASH HER, CLEANSING HER - that is dominion language, not in a oppressive pejorative way but in a way of LOVE and deep tender care AS HE IS TO LOVE HIS OWN FLESH! 

And the wife, She is STILL called like Eve, to submit to her husband in everything and RESIST that desire over him to seize dominion!!! As a wife refuses to allow her husband's leadership per Divinely appointed call, She actively resists GOD and the reflection of the order that HE put in place. She not only defies GOD's call over her husband, BUT ACTIVELY REJECTS GOD'S CALL OVER HER OWN LIFE in the way she was created to reflect HIS GLORY 

When women reject the order that God has set to reflect HIM And HIS order and defiantly take to the pulpits declaring themselves to be pastors over the men and congregations They have absolutely and unequivocally eaten a doctrine from the adversary of which they have been deceived as being good for food, a delight to the eyes, and having made them wise. 


Sunday, December 10, 2023

Woe Man


-Gen 3:16
To the woman He said, “I will greatly multiply your pain in childbirth, In pain you shall deliver children; Yet your desireH8669 will be for your husband, And he shall rule H4910 over you.”

- Gen 4:7
“If you do well, will your face not be cheerful? And if you do not do well, sin is lurking at the door; and its desire H8669 is for you, but you must master H4910 it.” 


Isaiah 3:11  Woe to the wicked! It will go badly with him,  For what he deserves will be done to him.
12 O My people! Their oppressors are children,  And women rule over them. O My people! Those who guide you lead you astray And confuse the direction of your paths.


 1 Tim 2:11 A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. 12 But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13 For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. 14 And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15 But women will be preserved through the bearing of children if they continue in faith and love and sanctity with self-restraint.

  • Numbers 31:15And Moses said to them, “Have you spared all the women?16“Behold, they caused the sons of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to be unfaithful to the LORD in the matter of Peor, so that the plague took place among the congregation of the LORD!
  • Revelation 2 :14‘But I have a few things against you, because you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who kept teaching Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols and to commit sexual immorality.



Judges 4 :1Then the sons of Israel again did evil in the sight of the Lord, after Ehud died. 2 And the Lord sold them into the hand of Jabin king of Canaan, who reigned in Hazor; and the commander of his army was Sisera, who lived in Harosheth-hagoyim. 3 The sons of Israel cried to the Lord; for he had nine hundred iron chariots, and he oppressed the sons of Israel severely for twenty years.

Judges 3

  • The Israelites cried out to the LORD. SO THE LORD RAISED UP Othniel son of Kenaz, Caleb’s youngest brother, as a deliverer to save the Israelites.
  • Then the Israelites cried out to the LORD, AND HE RAISED UP Ehud son of Gera, a left-handed Benjaminite, as a deliverer for them. The Israelites sent him with the tribute for King Eglon of Moab.” 

Why does in not say that the Lord raised up Deborah?

  • She said, “I will surely go with you; nevertheless, the honor shall not be yours on the journey that you are about to take, for the Lord will sell Sisera into the hands of a woman.”

Dishonor to the Man = his honor given to the woman 

  •  Moses' wife circumcised his kids to save her husband's life, and this was a righteous act where Moses was not operating in the area of which he was to be operating. Did this make Moses wife a pastor/ Overseer ?No. did it make her a woman that did a righteous act when a man had not done what he was supposed to and his life was at stake? Yes. 
  • What about Miriam? Wasn't the thing that she grumbled saying was that "we all hear from God" asserting that there was no difference between her , Aaron and Moses? Yet, only she was put outside the camp for a sin that encompassed her and Aaron. The point alludes to Miriam making an assertion to be in the same positioning as her Male brothers. The result is that she is set outside the camp for 7 days, where a Priest would have to come and check to see if she was healed of her leprosy in order to be readmitted to the camp.


1 Cor 14:34

  • The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35 If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church. 36 Was it from you that the word of God first went forth? Or has it come to you only? 37 If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. 38 But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized


 Ephesians 5:22-24
  • Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. 24 But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.-

1 Peter 3 

  • In the same way, you wives, be submissive to your own husbands so that even if any of them are disobedient to the word, they may be won without a word by the behavior of their wives, 2 as they observe your chaste and respectful behavior. 3 Your adornment must not be merely external—braiding the hair, and wearing gold jewelry, or putting on dresses; 4 but let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the imperishable quality of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is precious in the sight of God. 5 For in this way in former times the holy women also, who hoped in God, used to adorn themselves, being submissive to their own husbands; 6 just as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord, and you have become her children if you do what is right without being frightened by any fear.7 You husbands in the same way, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker, since she is a woman; and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered.


Titus 2:4-5

  •  so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored. 

There are examples of headship/authority all over the scriptures and commands of God


 - Numbers 30:3-5

  •         Also if a woman makes a vow to the Lord, and binds herself by an obligation in her father’s house in her youth, 4 and her father hears her vow and her obligation by which she has bound herself, and her father says nothing to her, then all her vows shall stand and every obligation by which she has bound herself shall stand. 5 But if her father should forbid her on the day he hears of it, none of her vows or her obligations by which she has bound herself shall stand; and the Lord will forgive her because her father had forbidden her.

By the Headship/Authority of the father, the woman breaking a vow is not under penalty This same authority set up is for husbands to wives 

- Numbers 30:6-8

  •      However, if she should marry while under her vows or the rash statement of her lips by which she has bound herself, 7 and her husband hears of it and says nothing to her on the day he hears it, then her vows shall stand and her obligations by which she has bound herself shall stand. 8 But if on the day her husband hears of it, he forbids her, then he shall annul her vow which she is under and the rash statement of her lips by which she has bound herself; and the Lord will forgive her. 


- Numbers 5:19-20;29

  • The priest shall have her take an oath and shall say to the woman, “If no man has lain with you and if you have not gone astray into uncleanness, being under the authority of your husband, be immune to this water of bitterness that brings a curse; 20 if you, however, have gone astray, being under the authority of your husband, and if you have defiled yourself and a man other than your husband has had intercourse with you” This is the law of jealousy: when a wife, being under the authority of her husband, goes astray and defiles herself



If we take an egalitarian approach to 1 timothy and the ORDER in which is outlined, then what we are saying at the core is that WE are equal to Christ- that there is no Divine authority and that We are co- authority with God and this is at its core the the doctrine of Eve in the garden being tempted by the fruit- that she would be like God knowing good and evil and have her eyes opened. 

God made things in the ORDER in which He chose. He DECIDED to make man first. He THEN gave Man dominion. He THEN made woman. When Eve ate first and then Adam , God called out to Adam. God did not call out to both of them equally saying "humans what happened".  



      Monday, November 27, 2023

      Historic Lies

       "Many of those who say that they confess Jesus, and are called Christians, eat meats offered to idols, and declare that they are by no means injured in consequence. Confessing themselves to be Christians, and admitting the crucified Jesus to be both Lord and Christ, yet not teaching His doctrines, but those of the spirits of error. ...[They are those who] teach to blaspheme the Maker of all things, and Christ, who was foretold by Him as coming, and the God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, with whom we have nothing in common, since we know them to be atheists, impious, unrighteous, and sinful, and confessors of Jesus in name only, instead of worshipers of Him. Yet they style themselves Christians, just as certain among the Gentiles inscribe the name of God upon the works of their own hands, and partake in nefarious and impious rites. Some are called Marcians, and some Valentinians, and some Basilidians, and some Saturnilians, and others by other names; each called after the originator of the individual opinion...the name of the father of the particular doctrine"- Justin Martyr
      "Finally, in 1550, Calvin managed to get the Genevan authorities to outlaw Christmas and to mandate that communion would be celebrated only on Sundays, and not on “superstitious” pagan dates like December 25. Indeed, on December 25, 1550, the city council sat for business as usual, the courts were in session and businesses were all open under penalty of fine. Calvin, as usual, gave his weekday sermon on a book of the Old Testament and noticed something that upset him: there were more people in church than on a typical weekday. A committed soldier in the war on Christmas, Calvin boomed from the pulpit:
      I see more people than usual at sermon today. And why? It’ s Christmas day. And who told you? It seems so [to be a holy day] to poor beasts. There’ s the fitting label for all who came to sermon today in honor of the feast… But if you think that Jesus Christ was born today, you are beasts, indeed, rabid beasts."

      The Zondervan Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible:

      "Gradually a number of prevailing practices of the nations into which Christianity came were assimilated and ...were combined with the religious ceremonies surrounding Christmas. The assimilation of such practices generally represented efforts by Christians to transform or absorb otherwise pagan practices.

      The Feast of Saturnalia in early Rome, for example, was celebrated for 7 days from the 17th to the 24th of December and was marked by a spirit of merriment, gift giving to children and other forms of entertainment. Gradually, early Christians replaced the pagan feast with the celebration of Christmas; but many of the traditions of this observance were assimilated and remain to this day a part of the observance of Christmas. Other nations, the Scandinavians, Germans, French, English and others, have left their mark . . . as well (pp. 804, 805)."


      The Christian Encyclopedia

      "Various symbolic elements of the pagan celebration, such as the lighting of candles, evergreen decorations, and the giving of gifts, were adapted to Christian signification. Later as Christianity spread into northern Europe, the Celtic, Teutonic, and Slavic winter festivals contributed holly, mistletoe, the Christmas tree, bonfires, and similar items."


      Unger's Bible Dictionary:


      "The giving of presents was a Roman custom; while the yule tree and yule log are remnants of old Teutonic nature worship. Gradually the festival sank into mere revelry . . . . The custom was forbidden by an act of parliament in 1555; And the reformation brought in a refinement in the celebration of Christmas by emphasizing it Christian elements."

      The Bible  

      “But for the cowardly, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and sexually immoral persons, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” Revelation 21:8



      We KNOW that the customs of Christmas are pagan in origination. We KNOW that the pagan customs were infused by men who called themselves "Christians" but were not. Tares. The ones that are false. Liars. If ALL liars are destined for the lake of fire, then it MUST include those that preach that the pagan customs are of Christ. 

      and if WE are professing believers, WE should not be lying about 

      Santa
      Elves on Shelves
      or That God does not care about how we worship Him.   

      Saturday, November 11, 2023

      Rebuke

       Heretical Teaching

      ☝This is a link to a Heretical Teaching by Salem Reformed Baptist Chruch. 
      👇This is my 10 page rebuke 

      "not paying attention to Jewish myths and commandments of men who turn away from the truth. "


      The commands of God are not Jewish myths nor are the commandments of men.  They are Divine Law.


      We are part of the New Covenant if we are SAVED. ONCE we are ALREADY SAVED, Hebrews 10 states that as New Covenant believers have the Law of God on their hearts and on their minds. 


      False teachers are recognized by the ones that teach that we should not obey the Law of God as Christ  Himself states we should do and Keep the Law of God in Matthew 5 


       “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.



      To talk about doctrinal purity, What is good Doctrine:

      Proverbs 4:2 

      For I give you good doctrine: Do not forsake my law.


      The Law is not for salvation, but it is for good doctrine, for identifying what sin is, and what it isn't. What righteousness is, and what it isn't  as it is written:

      1 John 3:4 Everyone who does sin also does lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness. 


      And Again in 2 Thes chapter 2:

       For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. 8 And then that lawless one will be revealed—whom the Lord Jesus will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming— 9 whose coming is in accord with the working of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, 10 and with all the deception of unrighteousness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 11 And for this reason God sends upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in unrighteousness.


      You go on to speak on Ephesians and how Ministers are to teach obedience to Christ, Paul mentioned what equips men who are saved to do this. 


      2 Timothy 3

      But you continue in the things you learned and became convinced of, knowing from whom you learned them, 15 and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to make you wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be equipped, having been thoroughly equipped for every good work.


      The sacred scriptures for teaching being referred to here are God's commandments as its said "Abraham believed and then obeyed God's commandments" 


      You go on to mention that Satan's schemes against the church and seeks to harm through false teachings. This is correct. 

      Revelation 12:17

      17 So the dragon was enraged with the woman and went off to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God and have the witness of Jesus.


      Satan hates those that follow God's commandments, those holding to the sacred scriptures as paul mentioned, those that love the truth that the Psalmist mentions is God's Law- ALONG with their faith in Christ. He's not attacking those who are teaching "do not follow God's law"...He's attacking those that are living like Christ out of a response to their salvation of Grace alone and walking in Sanctification., repentance, obedience. 


      In the last days some will depart from the faith and turn to teachings of demons. We already saw where Christ in Matthew 5 says do and keep the Law, so what would the position of these demons be? I already mentioned 2 thes. 2 and the Man of lawlessness and those who are lawless and God allows a deluding Spirit over them because they didn't love the Truth, wouldn't the doctrines of demons be to disregard what God says to follow and obey? 



      You mention to look away from false teachers and instead to look to Christ.  

      Matthew 7:21-23

      21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, in Your name did we not prophesy, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name do many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’



      would it be fair to say that the false teachers were advocating a total disregard for the Law of God, and did not have it on their heart and mind as New Covenant believers? 


      What about this passage in Matthew 13

      1 The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, 42 and will throw them into the fiery furnace; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


      Is it the ones who are Pro- Law or Pronomian that are thrown in the fire with the stumbling blocks and taken OUT of the kingdom? 


      When we read 2 Tim 4

       For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.


      When Christ said to do and teach the law, and we have good doctrine as being not forsaking the law, then wouldn't it make sense that the false itching ears pastors would be telling people not to regard those pronomians who profess that we are saved by grace through faith alone and that should result in obedience and repentance? 


      Acts 15 was teaching that to be saved a person had to convert to Judaism and that something a person physically did allowed them to be Jewish and then once they obeyed the law they could be saved. This is not a pronomian position. This is a heresy, that as scripture points out, began in Acts 15. 


      Peter points out in Acts 15 that they ( Jews) were never saved by keeping the law or circumcision and that it would be unjust to start such a practice and apply it to the gentiles. Scripture clearly states taht Abraham was not saved by circumcision, He was saved by grace through faith. Hebrews 11 list all the patriarchs of the faith as being saved the same way, so the heresy that BEGAN in acts 15 is NOT what the Hebrew faith had been from Sinai to Christ- Those who teach this do not have a firm grasping of the scriptures and are in danger of being the very false preachers that they seek to stand against. 



      When you look at Acts 15:21 you will see that the conclusion of the council was that the gentiles ( the subjects at hand) have 4 elementary rules and that they hear the Law of God preached every sabbath. There is no command against child sacrifice in Acts 15, but we would be foolish to think that God does not have that standard for Gentile believers who as they are saved are turning to repentance. In fact, If the Torah was not for Gentiles, then why does God say over (Leviticus 18:26 ) and over (Leviticus 22:18-21) and over (Leviticus 24:16) and over ( Leviticus 24:22) and over (Numbers 9:14) and over (Numbers 15:15-16) and over (Numbers 15:29-30) and over (Deuteronomy 16:13-15 ) and over (Deuteronomy 26:10-11) and over (Deuteronomy 31:9-13) and over (Ecclesiastes 12:13)  again that it is?


      Godly men should lead the church, which is why I agree with the Psalmist who tells us how men can keep their way pure 

      Psalm 119:9-11

      9 How can a young man keep his way pure?

      By keeping it according to Your word.

      10 With all my heart I have sought You;

      Do not let me stray from Your commandments.

      11 Your word I have treasured in my heart,

      That I may not sin against You.


      If a teacher is teaching that by obeying the commands of God one is creating disorder or sin or some how promoting a condemnation or falsehood, THAT teacher THEMSELVES would be preaching contrary to the Word of God 


      There is a group that was false teaching that to be saved one had to be circumcised and to keep the law- to be saved- this is heresy. On the opposite side of this false doctrine, is another false doctrine that is equally heretical, and that is those that become antinomian in doctrine and disregard God's righteousness and substitute their own interpretations of the Word rather than what God's standards are. They are choosing what THEY call righteous instead of what God says is righteous. 


      I am glad that you welcome public rebuke of harmful teachings. Please let this serve as such as it applies. I Must rebuke antichrist/antinomian doctrine that you may correct accordingly and conform to walking in the manner of Christ our Savior. 


      God's law is not Jewish myths. The commands are the Law of God . It says to avoid foolish controversies it does not say avoid important discussions regarding the very things that Christ HIMSELF says that HE did not come to abolish AND HE tells us that we are to both DO and TEACH, as those that are the least who do not do and teach them will be likened to the stumbling blocks and cast OUT of the kingdom on that day when they come to Christ when they might say "we kept so much order in your church and appointed elders" but He says Depart from me you who practice LAWLESSNESS I never knew you. 

      If you are saved, and are walking by the Holy Spirit, The Spirit convicts you of Sin, and Sin is the violation of God's Law. If you take issue with this, then you are chastising the Holy Spirit of God as being a judaizer and not welcomed in your church. 



      You cite Paul to advocate not being Pronomian, but in doing this you are the very thing that Peter warns us about in 2 Peter 3 

      14 Therefore, beloved, since you are looking for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless, 15 and consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, 16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard lest you, having been carried away by the error of unprincipled(antinomian) men, fall from your own steadfastness 


      Paul even went so far as to perform sacrifices after the death and resurrection of Christ for the EXACT purpose to prove WRONG those who are saying what you are preaching here.  Acts 21:18-24;26 


      18 And the following day Paul went in with us to James, and all the elders were present. 19 And after he had greeted them, he began to relate one by one the things which God did among the Gentiles through his ministry. 20 And when they heard it they began glorifying God; and they said to him, “You see, brother, how many thousands there are among the Jews of those who have believed, and they are all zealous for the Law; 21 and they have been told about you, that you are teaching all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs. 22 What, then, is to be done? They will certainly hear that you have come. 23 Therefore do this that we tell you. We have four men who are under a vow; 24 take them and purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads. Then all will know that there is nothing to the things which they have been told about you, but that you yourself also walk orderly, keeping the Law. 26Then Paul took the men, and the next day, purifying himself along with them, went into the temple giving notice of the completion of the days of purification, until the sacrifice was offered for each one of them.


      Would the teaching of demons advocate obeying God the way that God tells us to obey Him? That doesn't make sense. 


      You now cite the passage regarding itching ears doctrines. It is interesting that you cite this if you are holding an antinomian position as this states clearly that these people seek teachers to indulge their own passions. Did you not know that the Law of God is CONTRARY to the flesh? 

      Romans 8:7-8

       because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God, for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8 and those who are in the flesh are not able to please God.


      The Law of God is against the FLESH and that those in the FLESH cannot please God. Antinomians teach that we are not to pick up our cross and deny the flesh, the very Call of the Messiah. You cannot stay in the truth and hold to the myth indeed, abandon this myth that pronomianism is ungodly. 


      A Myth is a fable created by MAN- like saying that obeying God's Law because you are saved is to be rebuked or is turning to error. That is a man made myth, as that doctrine is not founded in the Word of God. 


      you rightly say that these myths were actually endorsing sinful behavior, as stated above sin is the violation of God's Law and disregard of God's commands and therefore you perpetuating the myth that Christ and Paul were against the Law of God is spreading the very Myths that the elders in the church are put in place to protect against. 


      To be clear, you are saying that at Sinai, after freeing Israel from bondage and leading them into freedom by faith- God gave them ungodly directives and doctrines of demons? That's what you are saying when you call the Word of God, God's self disclosure to the World, oppression. 



      In Mark 7, Christ is rebuking the Pharisees for their made up man made traditions that became the Talmud and the Mishna, not for matters concerning God's Law. The issue was that Pharisees were trying to rebuke them for not partaking in TRADITIONAL handwashing and matters that by their TRADITIONS they were saying made men and bread unclean. Please note that in this passage that Christ rebukes them over and over and over again for not only their traditions BUT FOR SETTING ASIDE THE COMMANDS OF GOD - WHICH IS WHAT THE THRUST OF YOUR ENTIRE MESSAGE IS ENTAILING.  Christ is not rebuking the Pharisees for obeying God's law, He's rebuking them for NOT obeying it. Therefore it is not the man who obeys God's Commands who is like the pharisaic judaizer- IT IS THE RELIGIOUS MAN WHO BY HIS OWN INTERPRETATIONS AND TWISTING OF SCRIPTURES DISREGARDS THE COMMANDS OF GOD 


      You bring up sound doctrine again, so allow me to break this down 


      Before we were saved we continually violated God's Law. 

      We were saved by Grace through faith, and Titus 2:11-14 says that Grace redeems us from every lawless deed. 

      Once we are saved, we are to repent from sin, and sin is lawlessness 1 john 3:4. 

      We are to live according to Christ's example, who was perfectly obedient to the Law of God as if He sinned He can't be the Savior. 

      As we are repentant,  we are walking in the Holy Spirit- who convicts us of Sin which is a violation of God's Law. 

      We are part of the New Covenant,  which is the Law of God written on our hearts  by that same Holy Spirit so that we may obey God,as Hebrews 10 states, quoting Jeremiah 33. 

      Peter warns us to not interpret Paul's writings as saying not to obey God's Law in 2 Peter 3:14-17

      We are not not walking like the/an Anti-Christ,  who is called the man of Lawlessness, and people who follow them are under a delusion according to 2 thes 2. 

      We are called to perseverance and overcome against Satan, and the perseverance is holding to the commands of God AND the testimony of Christ,  Rev. 12:17, 14:12


      Wouldn't it be a distortion of the word to take things that God has said in this word which are sins, and dismiss them because people may like them or to minimize them by traditions, and wouldn't that disregard for God be more of a doctrine of demons that appeases the flesh?


      To be a true Christian you must LOVE GOD.  Loving God, according to God, will result in obedience to His ways. Read the entirety of Hebrews 11, these mere all saved by faith and it resulted in obedience, because they loved God they believed. 


      "we had a young man visiting us but from what I heard he turned to Jewish myths and started keeping the mosaic Law" 

      Sir, “what you heard”? You didn't reach out to him? Did you accept whatever myth you heard about him? Aren't pastors checking on these things? IF He was going that way, why didn't you  as a pastor, or get an elder, to sit with him or call him and walk with him through the scriptures that you might either win him to the truth in correcting his doctrine, OR YOU YOURSELF MIGHT REPENT OF FALSEHOOD YOU ESPOUSE FROM THE PULPIT? 


      Now you begin to double speak when you demonize pronomians for, in your words saying "they say that the Torah is binding on us"  and then you admit "The old testament is binding on us as believers in Jesus". Sir are you being deliberately obtuse in your needless division or is this a personal issue for you? Why did you diminish one party in one breath and then admit to agreement in another? 


      I am seeing that you are having difficulty understanding the purpose of the Law, and I think you may be looking at the Law of God as being a means for salvation for people in the Old Testament. This is a common misunderstanding. From Genesis in the garden, God promised a coming Savior to redeem mankind and from the Garden anyone who was ever saved was saved by faith and it was credited to them as Righteousness.  Cain and Able knew to sacrifice, Noah knew clean and unclean animals, and scripture states in Hebrews 11 that these were saved by faith, not by the Law. Now if one was thinking that performing godly actions contributed to salvation, like the men began teaching in acts 15, then yes that is falsehood and heresy and a lie from the pit of hell and bondage. HOWEVER, that is not the pronomian position. Pronomians like David, put their faith in the Messiah, Christ, The Savior of the World, The Word made flesh who dwelled among us, God incarnate. Out of that genuine and abiding love we have for God, like in any healthy relationship, we do what is pleasing to the one we love. God says rest and spend the day with Him on HIS Sabbath, rest and spend the day as prescribed in the Bible- not with man made burdensome rabbinical traditions, and not to arrogantly display an outward sense of holiness- but because WE LOVE GOD 


      Again you are absolutely correct that there is no distinction between civil, moral, or ceremonial Law, so when Christ says that not even the smallest jot or tittle should be diminished until HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY, and Peter and Revelation both State that has yet to happen, then stop teaching that it has. 


      "if you're going to keep one you have to keep the whole thing"  yes, if you are trying to earn your salvation then you would need to have never sinned, and also keep all of the Law perfectly. Thank God that isn't the pronomian position or anything that they are preaching. Thank God that the false myths pastors are spreading about pronomianism are false. 


      I agree that Gematria and Kabbalah are weird and false. You have this correct. 

      Just as an atheist might label all of God's followers as immoral and evil and full of hate, so are you painting all who are obeying God's law out of a response and love of Christ's Salvation as in error. You decry much of the weirdness and fringe doctrines held by individual groups, and rightly so, but you're wrong to make it a blanket statement. Pronomians do not hold to any of those things. There are many Christians' who hold these fringe beliefs. 


      You are right about homosexuality and other myths regarding sexual immorality. I encourage you to keep these. 


      You brought up the dietary laws of God and conveyed much bewilderment. You liken to eating and abstaining of certain foods to be a custom of Mosaic law, and again this is an error. Again, looking back to Mark 7, the issue is Pharisaic law and the pharisees NOT following the commands of God and imposing that they have the authority to determine what is or isn't food, Not God. Christ rebukes them saying that it is what comes out of the heart that defiles a person- which is the choice to reject what GOD has said,  in favor for what MAN has said. You appear do dismiss eating that which God has not called food as some little issue but PEOPLE IGNORING WHAT GOD DEFINES FOOD AS BEING AND CHOOSING TO SET ASIDE THE COMMANDS OF GOD AND EAT THAT WHICH HE HAS FORBIDDEN IS THE VERY ACTION THAT DOOMED HUMANITY AND KICKED US OUT OF THE GARDEN.  IT IS A LITERAL DOCTRINE GIVEN BY A DEMON. YOU ARE IGNORING WHAT GOD DEFINES FOOD AS IN HIS WORD AND LITERALLY PREACHING THAT WE SHOULD TAKE AND EAT AND SAYING THAT IT IS GOOD FOR MAKING ONE WISE AND WE SURELY WILL NOT DIE.  I cannot overstate enough the need to repent of that ideology. Our God does not change and is a provocation before Him. 


      You have stated that in Christ we have no food laws. Setting aside that your statement contradicts you earlier point in acts 15 where gentiles are commanded to avoid meat sacrificed to idols which in of itself is a food law, I will present you with a burning question:


      Isaid 66 states that God will (not has, will) pour out indignation on ALL FLESH (not just Jews) who eat swine and mice and abominations BEFORE the NEw heaven and new earth are created which are spoken of in 2 Peter and Revelation 21. IF that is something that enrages GOD, whom we love- not even just the element of it being a sin which it is- but we KNOW its something that upsets our God whom we love... then wouldn't that mean that to consume these things is not an act of liberty but selfishness? Wouldn't the justification of such an action be akin to saying that "Love is Love '' to excuse adultery or fornication? The degree in which you hate sin is the degree in which you love God's Law, and friend your message is romantic to DEATH towards the flesh. 


      How can you preach so adoringly of the Lord's Supper as a reflection of Christ, and then Dismiss GOD'S COMMANDS REGARDING WHAT IS FOOD! Both are reflections of Christ. We are of faith so we eat the things of faith that God tells us are food. Those who are not of faith eat abominations such as pork and shellfish. Again like the Pharisees, when Rebuked by Christ... You should have done the latter without neglecting the former. 


      The dividing wall that Christ abolished was man made customs, NOT making abominations that God said not to eat into food. God never called the gentiles unclean, MAN MADE TRADITIONS DID. It was a mixed multitude that left Egypt, a mixed multitude at Sinai, and a mixed multitude that agreed to the Torah. God didn't have two separate standards of Sin, He's not a respecter of persons that says that one is a sin for a Jew and one is a sin for a gentile.... that IS A MYTH.


      Colossians 2 is referring to the Pharisees saying that bread was unclean if you touched it without obeying MAN MADE TRADITIONS. IT IS NOT ABOUT OBEYING GOD'S WORD!!! God's LAW IS NOT THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN THEY ARE FROM GOD!!!


      "all things are pure to those who are pure" This is referring to food. Bread is food. What this is not referring to is calling things God said aren't food, as food. Here is a breakdown of this concept for you https://therealgiantslayer.blogspot.com/2023/09/you-cant-sit-with-us.html. 


      Think about this in Isaiah 66 

      “For just as the new heavens and the new earth

      Which I make will endure before Me,” declares Yahweh,

      “So your seed and your name will endure.

      23 And it shall be from new moon to new moon

      And from sabbath to sabbath,

      All mankind will come to worship before Me,” says Yahweh.

      24 “Then they will go forth and look

      On the corpses of the men

      Who have transgressed against Me.

      For their worm will not die

      And their fire will not be quenched;

      And they will be an object of contempt to all mankind.”


      Those that eat abominations are destroyed and they will be corpses and an abhorrence. What does Revelation 21:8 say  about those that ARENT in Heaven?

      Revelation 21:8

       But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and sexually immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”


      The abhorrence.  Daniel 12 tells us the same thing

      And many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to reproach and everlasting contempt. 3 And those who have insight will shine brightly like the brightness of the expanse of heaven, and those who lead the many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever.

      Be obedient. If you are in Christ, you will do the things of Christ. Christ walked in obedience to the Law of God. We are to be Holy as He is Holy. We are under grace and we are under Mercy, but we are called to repent. Just as I am calling you to repent and live like Christ and die to your flesh and stop preaching the doctrine of demons, of satan, and of lawlessness.


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