Wednesday, April 22, 2020

Defense of Paul 3- "Paulabellum "

In case you were not some how aware that I have been plastering rebukes of Justin Best of Christian Truthers statement that Paul should be removed from the Bible, I have been . That first refute and video can be found here  and the second can be found here .  Even though others and myself have rend Justin's very flawed, bad arguments for what they are, He's still dropping videos that are leading people astray.

This Post will be everything that I see scripturally wrong with Justin's latest video which can be found here 

Alright, Justin starts by pointing to Revelation 12: 11 to build a foundation for the false message that he has been espousing.

They triumphed over him
    by the blood of the Lamb
    and by the word of their testimony;
they did not love their lives so much
    as to shrink from death.
Justin states that he hasn't been sharing the testimony as to what he attributes to Yah in order to mutilate the Word of God.  Justin tries to equate the vision that he has to be equal to Peters vision regarding going to the gentiles. He asserts that his vision is true, and keeps saying that it is true, which  according to his really bad logic in his first video, point 20, means he's not telling the truth
"20. Paul repeatedly tries to assure people that he's not lying"
Justin says that he originally loved Paul's writings and letters, but shifted to a place of questioning and sharing that with friends and family. I want to affirm that at this point, there is nothing wrong with that. Questions are good. If it weren't for questions, most of us wouldn't believe in the fullness of the Bible, or, the Bible at all. Justin has crossed no lines in questioning and looking for answers to questions. Justin says that the response he received was to study Paul from a torah perspective, and this is again a solid answer. By his own admission, Justin says that he took the advice and was even able to reconcile certain things that Paul says that Justin previously took objection. He mentions that he had once gone through the Pauline paradox series by 119 Ministries but I believe that this is similar to what is written about in James 1

 22 But prove yourselves doers of the word, and not merely hearers who delude themselves. 23 For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his natural face in a mirror; 24 for once he has looked at himself and gone away, he has immediately forgotten what kind of person he was. 25 But one who looks intently at the perfect law, the law of liberty, and abides by it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an effectual doer, this man will be blessed in what he does.
Justin looks at the truth, and then forgets what it says. He says that he went through the Pauline Paradox series- which gives a breakdown on the point regarding Meat Sacrificed to Idols, but either forgets the explanation or deliberately abandons it.Justin says that after a year the issue came back up within him and he encountered contradictory scriptures- then self edits to say contradictory statements. We should remember that if we see contradiction in the scriptures, the culprit is more often than not, our understanding and not the scriptures themselves.

Justin states a DREAM where he has had with a cartoon map and of  Peter and a cartoon of Paul and Peter was sitting on a throne, and Paul knocked him off of his throne  knocking him off of the map. In this dream Justin says "that doesn't make any sense". Justin says that when he woke up he KNEW that this was a dream that confirmed his position.
Lets take a look at some important verse regarding this. Jeremiah 29
 “Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, to all the exiles whom I have sent into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon, 5 ‘Build houses and live in them; and plant gardens and eat their produce. 6 Take wives and become the fathers of sons and daughters, and take wives for your sons and give your daughters to husbands, that they may bear sons and daughters; and multiply there and do not decrease. 7 Seek the welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile, and pray to the Lord on its behalf; for in its welfare you will have welfare.’ 8 For thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, ‘Do not let your prophets who are in your midst and your diviners deceive you, and do not listen to the dreams which they dream. 9 For they prophesy falsely to you in My name; I have not sent them,’ declares the Lord.
This is a passage that if you believe that we are in the diaspora, is pertaining to us and is warning us to not be deceived by people, like Justin, who are leading people astray, like justin, according to dreams in which they say God gave them, just like Justin.  Look at Jeremiah 23
I have heard what the prophets have said who prophesy falsely in My name, saying, ‘I had a dream, I had a dream!’ 26 How long? Is there anything in the hearts of the prophets who prophesy falsehood, even these prophets of the deception of their own heart, 27 who intend to make My people forget My name by their dreams which they relate to one another, just as their fathers forgot My name because of Baal?The prophet who has a dream may relate his dream, but let him who has My word speak My word in truth.
Justin is doing this very thing by crediting a dream as confirmation of his rejection of SCRIPTURE.
Is it not possible that God was testing his heart to see if he'd obey the commands of God? That happens repeatedly in scripture. Could his dream mean that he's making caricatures out of the Word of God and in rejecting Paul, Justin is falling from his secure position and will be wiped off the map?
Could his dream be the result of eating pizza before bed? It could be any of these things, or none of these things. What it doesn't make the case for, is Divine inspiration.It fails to meet that burden. Remember in Justin's first point when he tried to make the case that Joseph Smiths story was like Paul's even though Paul lived like 1800 years prior? We can do the same thing with Justin's dream and Joseph smith
According to the account Smith told in 1838, he went to the woods to pray about which church to join but fell into the grip of an evil power that nearly overcame him. At the last moment, he was rescued by two shining "Personages" (implied to be God the Father and Jesus) who hovered above him. One of the beings told Smith not to join any existing churches because all taught incorrect doctrines.
Two biblical figures, just like in Justin's dream, regarding the church, just like Justins dream. Does anyone not see that this is how dangerous cults are formed? Let me tell you, sometimes if you binge watch a show, certain elements can show up in your dream. If you spend a lot of time reading a specific story, elements can show up in your subconscious. Last night I had a dream that involved a friend of mine that I had to substantially scale communication back from because the situation called for it. To avoid falling into sin I had to cut back. I started this post yesterday and wrote this section about how dreams can be a test. I had a dream about this friend and when I woke up I had the strong desire to reach out to them and tell them about it. Except there is a problem with that, God has already shown me that this is something that shouldn't happen. I woke up and I knew that it was a test. Instead I reached out to some brothers instead of reconnecting with my friend.
Here are examples of God testing the hearts of people to see if they will obey Him, or do what seems right in their own way , I'll cite the verses but for length I won't quote them all
Deuteronomy 8:2, Judges 2:22, Judges 3:1, Judges 3:4, 2 Chronicles 32:31
Back to Justin who again reiterates the false claim that Paul usurped the seat of authority from Peter over the gentiles. Lets take a step back and look at this for a minute... follow me here

Romans 4:16
For this reason it is by faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all
Romans 10:12
12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him
Romans 11:13-17
 But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14 if somehow I might move to jealousy my fellow countrymen and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 If the first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are too.17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree
 Ephesians 2:19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God’s household
Ephesians 3:6
to be specific, that the Gentiles are fellow heirs and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel
Note that Paul reiterates the same thing that Leviticus, and Numbers, and Deuteronomy say about their being the same law, the same body, the same people being united? Justin keeps manufacturing a division between Paul and Peter and saying Peter is for gentiles not Paul, but scriptures state again and again and again that there is to be ONE body, that in Messiah you ARE descendants of Abraham. That once you come into the faith you were FORMERLY GENTILES BUT ARE NOW PART OF ISRAEL. This renders Justin's argument worthless at its core because he is denying this at its base.

Justin continues and states that as he was approaching unleavened bread he was seeing all these scriptures that were"not beneficial to Torah in Messiah". That is a pretty big claim. He's saying that scriptures were coming to him and leading him to take Paul out of the Bible in practicality. Lets ask ourselves, are there examples of the Word of God being used to deceive and lead people away?
Out of Luke 4
And he led Him to Jerusalem and had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down from here; 10 for it is written,
‘He will command His angels concerning You to guard You,’ ( Psalms 91:11)
11 and,
‘On their hands they will bear You up,
So that You will not strike Your foot against a stone.’”( Psalms 91:12)
12 And Jesus answered and said to him, “It is said, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’”
The Adversary is citing the Word of God to advocate action. He's just citing it incorrectly as a temptation to Yeshua!!! I believe that is the very case of what happened with Justin, but sadly, Justin succumbed to the temptation and has discarded the Word of God in favor of his OWN understanding.
Justin even says that he had this FEELING that he had to share this, Had To Share This,  HAD TO SHARE THIS. This point is also ironic that Justin accuses Paul of sharing "his own gospel" but that is what Justin is doing with spreading his doctrine advocating the abandonment of Paul.  He states that unleavened bread was the time in which he had to share this because he feels that Paul's writings have been leavened. We've already gone though in the previous posts how that isn't the case but its a matter of a faulty understanding and not the writings of Paul themselves.
Then Justin shares something sadly revealing, a popular teacher friend that struggle with the teachings of Paul abandoned faith, and Justin attributes this to the Scriptures themselves rather than the breakdown in logic used.Justin cites that his beta fish named paul died as proof that we should abandon scriptural integrity.This is not a good argument. 1 Tim 4

The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
Justin goes back to the analogy that Paul is of Benjamin, the blessing of Benjamin is a ravenous wolf, therefore Paul is the wolf warned against. Here's a flaw in what he's doing there. He makes a big production about Peter being the foundation in which He builds His church right... He over emphasizes this  point. Looking at the text in Matt 16 we see it:

 Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking His disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” 14 And they said, “Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but still others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets.” 15 He *said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 18 I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. 

Right AFTER Peter has this big moment, feeling good rocking the very spiritual "got the question right about the Messiah" vibes, he over does it and the in the same chapter we see this

 From that time Jesus began to show His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised up on the third day. 22 Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, “God forbid it, Lord! This shall never happen to You.” 23 But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to Me; for you are not setting your mind on God’s interests, but man’s.”

If we follow Justin's example and abandoned reason and just look for what we want to look for or assume is true, then Peter can't have the church be upon him because he's satan. Furthermore Justin's logic also applied here in making such a huge deal about Paul rebuking Peter for hypocrisy concerning only eating with the Jews, Justin applies a MAJOR double standard here because Peter tried rebuking YESHUA!!!
Justin goes on to mention the two types of trees with good fruit and bad fruit, and seeks out the negative framework to apply only to his interpretation of Paul. Is bad fruit rebuking Yeshua? Is bad fruit denying Him 3 times as scripture records? Why does Justin stay silent in his reasoning on Peter and so loud in applying it to Paul unless it is his own bias that he's seeking to confirm.
For clarity's sake, I do not think Peter is satan nor Paul a heretic, I have used that for illustrative purposes.

Justin... I'm sorry I'm still trying to compose myself here... Justin states that while he was in the process of twisting Yeshua's warning... Justin's wife bid him to come look outside... and there was a cloud.. shaped like a wolf... and ... because Justin thinks that a cloud... looks like a wolf... then ... Paul should be removed from the the New Testament. At this point I feel myself wondering if Justin smokes weed. Wondering if Justin was smoking weed. Because this is the logic of someone who smokes weed... That their doctrine is being confirmed by cloud shapes and a dead beta fish that only lives for about 3 years dying after about 3 years. I'm a little grieved that I even have to write a post refuting this.  Having a lion king moment does not mean that you rip out scripture.
Another interpretation of the wolf in the clouds (though I do not believe it is God) could be God trying to warn Justin that HE is becoming a wolf, doing violence to the word of God and by proxy, the church. Justin states that the timing of him looking for justification of rejecting Paul as a wolf and seeing  a cloud outside at the same time that looks like a wolf, is impossible. That claim is false.
Justin elaborates that his wife said that the cloud looked like it had the face of a man like Yah whatever Yah looks like, then an angry face and then a wolf. Could it be that that it was the Face of Yah, and while Justin was persecuting Paul Yah became angry, and warns Justin that he is becoming a wolf in sheep's clothing? I know that Justin knows 1 John 4:1 because he uses it to try and deny Paul
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 
Furthermore 2 thes 2 says this
 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.
I pray repentance for Justin and all who follow him. I know that some of my tone in these writings have been harsh, but they need to be based on the severity of the Sin being perpetuated. Advocating apostasy to part of the Scriptures is not something to be taken lightly over tea. This is severe.

Just sets up his next point that he went live with his first part of his objections to Paul and that him going live was unbeknownst to Adam, and while he was live Adam had his own dream.  Justin is about to go into Adams dream to bolster his claim but he's already set up a false premise. The stage he tries to set is that since Adam didn't know about Justin going live, and then Adam had a dream, this confirms independently what Justin was saying. Except, Justin has been saying all along that he's been texting Adam all of his other "confirmations" and having discussions with Adam about all of this already.
Adams dream is that he was in a cave and there were soldiers to the left and the right in a firefight with each other, and then someone came into the cave with their hands up saying "don't shoot".  He states that in the dream the man that came in and was yelling "don't shoot" was Justin. He states that justin's appearance was covered in dirt and blood and he had just come in from behind enemy lines, but it was somewhat humorous because Justin's collar was popped and the dream ended.
Justin relays that Adam thought that the dream meant that Justin is not the enemy but was just going through some stuff for a "good cause"
Another take could be that we are in  Spiritual war, and that Justin is not where he should be, instead he's just come in from the enemies side, and his collar is popped like one puffed up and flaunting, its is a symbol of preppy proudness. None of this is confirmation that we should abandon Paul.
Justin states that the popped collar in military terms hides your rank. This could mean that Justin's "rank" as a teacher is to be stripped for advocating heresy. It could be nothing. There is nothing in Adams dream that relates to rejecting Paul one way or another.

Justin mentioned a friend of a friend who had a dream. She had a dream that she was in a field  and her and her husband were planning a garden. Then she realised that there was another field. And that Justin and his wife were in another field looking where to plant. She looks and sees that Justin is talking to her husband and Justin is panicked about rushing the seeds into the ground, NOW. She was concerned but agreed, and noticed another couple who had a field. She looks again and sees her husband and another couple planting immediately. They all sow seed to prepare for planting and that snakes like vipers sprang up from the ground and tried to bite their faces. The dream ends there and she asks what it means. Justin informs us that the couple that had the dream is the first couple that they shared their views on abandoning the integrity of scripture, and the second couple was the second one they shared this doctrine of apostasy to the fullness of God's Word.

A possible accounting of this dream is that Justin is planting what is false and spreading tares among the wheat, and in doing so, invites judgement as serpents are often representative of judgement. The parable of the tares is fitting here, Lets look at Matthew 13 and look at the imagery
 “Hear then the parable of the sower. 19 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is the one on whom seed was sown beside the road. 20 The one on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, this is the man who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; 21 yet he has no firm root in himself, but is only temporary, and when affliction or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he falls away. 22 And the one on whom seed was sown among the thorns, this is the man who hears the word, and the worry of the world and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful. 23 And the one on whom seed was sown on the good soil, this is the man who hears the word and understands it; who indeed bears fruit and brings forth, some a hundredfold, some sixty, and some thirty.”
24 Jesus presented another parable to them, saying, “The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25 But while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went away. 26 But when the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the tares became evident also. 27 The slaves of the landowner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 And he said to them, ‘An enemy has done this!’ The slaves *said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he *said, ‘No; for while you are gathering up the tares, you may uproot the wheat with them. 30 Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the wheat into my barn.”’”
If we look at the symbolism from this parable it fits more in line with Justins situation. Justin is having issues with THE WORD, He is trying to sow this doctrine in the soil but what spouts up is not
wheat, its Serpents. Vipers. If we use the word of God the same way Justin is using the word of God, then this is a rebuke, and it honestly should be
Matthew 23:33
You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell?
Serpents in scripture have shown judgement
Numbers 21
 The Lord sent fiery serpents among the people and they bit the people, so that many people of Israel died. 7 So the people came to Moses and said, “We have sinned, because we have spoken against the Lord and you; intercede with the Lord, that He may remove the serpents from us.” And Moses interceded for the people.
 Look at Jeremiah 8
How can you say, ‘We are wise,
And the law of the Lord is with us’?
But behold, the lying pen of the scribes
Has made it into a lie.
9 “The wise men are put to shame,
They are dismayed and caught;
Behold, they have rejected the word of the Lord
,
And what kind of wisdom do they have?
10 “Therefore I will give their wives to others,
Their fields to new owners;
Because from the least even to the greatest
Everyone is greedy for gain;
From the prophet even to the priest
Everyone practices deceit.
11 “They heal the brokenness of the daughter of My people superficially,
Saying, ‘Peace, peace,’
But there is no peace.

12 “Were they ashamed because of the abomination they had done?
They certainly were not ashamed,
And they did not know how to blush;
Therefore they shall fall among those who fall;
At the time of their punishment they shall be brought down,”
Says the Lord.

13 “I will surely snatch them away,” declares the Lord;
“There will be no grapes on the vine
And no figs on the fig tree,
And the leaf will wither;
And what I have given them will pass away.”’”
14 Why are we sitting still?
Assemble yourselves, and let us go into the fortified cities
And let us perish there,
Because the Lord our God has doomed us
And given us poisoned water to drink,
For we have sinned against the Lord.
15 We waited for peace, but no good came;
For a time of healing, but behold, terror!
16 From Dan is heard the snorting of his horses;
At the sound of the neighing of his stallions
The whole land quakes;
For they come and devour the land and its fullness,
The city and its inhabitants.
17 “For behold, I am sending serpents against you,
Adders, for which there is no charm,
And they will bite you,” declares the Lord.


Do you see how using the same elements that he's using regarding Peter and Benjamin are used against him, and overlap with the components in this dream. Lets also not forget the original serpent in the garden that was twisting the word of God.  Just as Justin goes to plant the word, what comes forward is that of the serpent.

Justin recounts that in the third dream the first couple is the first one that he shared his paper on Paul with, and the second couple in the dream is the second that he shared his paper on Paul with. That sounds to me like its on track with the interpretation that the seeds in which he is planting - disregarding Paul- are the seeds that are of the serpent. He says that they all started to fellowship together after sharing this message about Paul.
Even in Justins interpretation of the dream he affirms that the seed is the word, and how his urgency was that he needed to spread THIS word, we have to sow this seed into the ground as soon as possible. He states that trying to plant this seed in the soil, caused the snakes to come out but nobody has gotten bitten. Justin justifies that since no one was bitten then these snakes are not a warning God to repent but rather these snakes are believers that are attacking his position of aborting 2/3rds of the new testament . Jeremiah 23
Thus says the Lord of hosts,
“Do not listen to the words of the prophets who are prophesying to you.
They are leading you into futility;
They speak a vision of their own imagination,
Not from the mouth of the Lord.
17 “They keep saying to those who despise Me,
‘The Lord has said, “You will have peace”’;
And as for everyone who walks in the stubbornness of his own heart,
They say, ‘Calamity will not come upon you.’

This is what I am hearing when Justin is saying that the serpent will not bite and that no calamity will befall him. He should repent. Justin states rightly, one of the few points that I agree with him on, is that all of these things were either choreographed by Satan or of by Yah. Satan to steal kill and destroy, or by Yah to test their hearts to see if they will adhere to what is true over what they want to see. Justin has experienced the  "Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon" or "frequency illusion".
 Baader-Meinhof is the phenomenon where one happens upon some obscure piece of information-- often an unfamiliar word or name-- and soon afterwards encounters the same subject again, often repeatedly.
Justin was relying on his own understanding and came to the conclusion that Paul should not be scripture, Then, the Baader-Meinhof/Frequency Illusion kicked in and he was seeing "signs" everywhere. God could have killed his fish as a way to say, "this is what you are doing to my word, Stop" but Justin saw that as confirmation that we should "Kill Paul's writings"
The Frequency illusion is like when you buy a car and then see that care everywhere. They've made a movie about the premise, the Number 23.  I have a friend who sees the number 14 as revelation from God everywhere, and she believes in some crazy weird stuff like werewolves and things. None of this is proof.

Justin lists a list of reasons why he doesn't think that Satan is using this couple because they're humble Torah observant and home-school and goes on to list several good deeds to try and make the claim . This point is very easily refuted by reading the Genesis account and how the Serpent deceived the only people alive while they were still in a state of PERFECTION.

Justin makes the claim that many people outside of torah, of different faiths are now excited about what he's sharing and excited to get into the Word because Justin has removed scripture from it. He states that he's getting SO many messages of people that are interested and that is justification for what he's doing. Except, I know he's seen this passage because he keeps pulling from it
Matt 7
 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14 For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
15 “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves
He puts himself in a catch 22, because on the one hand he's remarking about all these people not of Torah that are saying such good things and praising him...
Luke 6:26 "Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for their fathers used to treat the false prophets in the same way.
...and on the other hand the rest of the Torah community is chastising him, which, is a point that he uses in his justification in disregarding Paul. Justin notes that half of the Torah community is mad at him and that should be a warning against his false doctrine, but instead of repentance he doubles down. He states that the ends justify the means because he's convincing Christians in regards to the Torah. This is false. This is outright false. Justin is doing the thing he accused Paul of when Paul said he becomes all things to all men. Justin is becoming one who disregards scripture to appeal to those who also want to disregard scriptures. This is asinine.

Justin closes his video with boasting about how he's studied for two years as if that is a significant amount of time to study a matter. Ironically, He's doing the thing that he accuses Paul of except Paul boasted in his own suffering on behalf of the Gospel, but Justin is boasting about having spent two years on the subject. Justin makes the argument that the amount of time hes spent studying means that he's incapable of being deceived. I've been in this walk for about 17 years and I have shown answers to these heresies, but even I know that I am not infallable.  Peter was standing right in front of the MESSIAH and was walking with the SAVIOR and HE was learning directly from GOD in FLESH and HE STILL had to be rebuked. Paul had to sit at the feet of Gamaleil for THREE YEARS before he could even talk to anyone one the subject of the gospel. Who is Justin that he believes that he has become infallible to the word of God and correction? A soft spoken man blinded by his own hubris preaching what is false, assembling disciples after himself. Justin says that the most important thing is to recognize your own sin, and the irony of how he's using that statement is not lost on me. We should endeavor to pray or Justin that God would bring about repentance, but until he does, he should be handed over to destruction.



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