Wednesday, June 5, 2024

"Sons of men "

 When we read scriptures like this 

Matthew  5:9 “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
And these : 
Romans 8:14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.
Galatians 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.
They showcase that being a son of God is tied to Obedience and Faith in Christ. What of the opposite though? Does that show that to be called "sons of men" always means "secular?" 

Perhaps secular is too strong a word but I always see the term tied to judgement and its relational to passages where men are not walking by the Spirit or by faith in God. I've listed all the places that I could find it so lets take a look. First mention I've found is Genesis 11:5 in reference to the tower of Babel. The sons of men being a reference to Nimrod and all who went with him. 

Genesis 11:5 5 The Lord came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built.
We KNOW that was self determinationism. 

1 kings 8:38-39
38 whatever prayer or supplication is made by any man or by all Your people Israel, each knowing the affliction of his own heart, and spreading his hands toward this house; 39 then hear in heaven Your dwelling place, and forgive and act and render to each according to all his ways, whose heart You know, for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men

This one is  seeming that it is talking about God forgiving after trying the hearts of the sons of men-  the contexts being that they have not walked in His ways prior. This is consistent with them having walked contrary to the Spirit. 

2 Chronicles 6:29-30 whatever prayer or supplication is made by any man or by all Your people Israel, each knowing his own affliction and his own pain, and spreading his hands toward this house, 30 then hear from heaven Your dwelling place, and forgive, and render to each according to all his ways, whose heart You know for You alone know the hearts of the sons of men

 
It looks like its the same story of 1 Kings, that they had walked contrary to God again, and the passage  about knowing the hearts that men - forgiving them that they might fear God and then walk by the Spirit. 

Psalms has a lot of mentions 

4:2
O sons of men, how long will my honor become a reproach? How long will you love what is worthless and aim at deception? Selah.

Sons of men = offended by honor, love what is worthless. 

11:4
The Lord is in His holy temple; the Lord’s throne is in heaven; His eyes behold, His eyelids test the sons of men.

Neither good nor bad in this context. neither for nor against the theory. 

12:1
Help, Lord, for the godly man ceases to be, For the faithful disappear from among the sons of men.

Direct contrast of the godly vs the sons of men. 

12:8
The wicked strut about on every side When vileness is exalted among the sons of men

Sons of men = wicked

14:2
The Lord has looked down from heaven upon the sons of men To see if there are any who understand, Who seek after God.

Sons of men, not seeking God nor understanding. 

21:8-10 :
Your hand will find out all your enemies; Your right hand will find out those who hate you. 9 You will make them as a fiery oven in the time of your anger; The Lord will swallow them up in His wrath, And fire will devour them. 10 Their offspring You will destroy from the earth, And their descendants from among the sons of men. Their offspring You will destroy from the earth, And their descendants from among the sons of men.

Lot of God's wrath and anger to these sons of men

31:18-20
Let the lying lips be mute, Which speak arrogantly against the righteous With pride and contempt. 19 How great is Your goodness,Which You have stored up for those who fear You, Which You have wrought for those who take refuge in You, Before the sons of men! 20 You hide them in the secret place of Your presence from the conspiracies of man; You keep them secretly in a shelter from the strife of tongues.

God delivers those who love Him from the sons of men who speak arrogantly against the righteous. 

33:13-17
The Lord looks from heaven;  He sees all the sons of men; 14 From His dwelling place He looks out On all the inhabitants of the earth, 15 He who fashions the hearts of them all, He who understands all their works. 16 The king is not saved by a mighty army; A warrior is not delivered by great strength. 17 A horse is a false hope for victory; Nor does it deliver anyone by its great strength.

Son of man = one who is confident in the flesh and self determinationism. 

psalm 45:3-5 contrasts Gods grace vs the sons of men and immediately goes into destruction of opposition 

45:3-5
The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God,”They are corrupt, and have committed abominable injustice; There is no one who does good. 2 God has looked down from heaven upon the sons of men To see if there is anyone who understands, Who seeks after God. 3 Every one of them has turned aside; together they have become corrupt; There is no one who does good, not even one.

Sons of men = corrupt 

57:4
My soul is among lions; I must lie among those who breathe forth fire, Even the sons of men, whose teeth are spears and arrows And their tongue a sharp sword.

Sons of men = bad

58:1-3
Do you indeed speak righteousness, O gods? Do you judge uprightly, O sons of men? 2 No, in heart you work unrighteousness; On earth you weigh out the violence of your hands.3 The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth.

Sons of men are compared to wicked judges/gods as in false gods who are no gods at all. They deal out violence and pervert justice. This is comparison can be made to Eve in the garden who was tempted by the fruit to be like God knowing good and evil for herself... rather than what God defines as good and evil. 

66:3-7
Say to God, “How awesome are Your works!Because of the greatness of Your power Your enemies will give feigned obedience to You. 4 “All the earth will worship You, And will sing praises to You; They will sing praises to Your name.” Selah. 5 Come and see the works of God, Who is awesome in His deeds toward the sons of men. He turned the sea into dry land; They passed through the river on foot; There let us rejoice in Him!7 He rules by His might forever; His eyes keep watch on the nations; Let not the rebellious exalt themselves. Selah.

When we look at verse 5 a case could be made that it directs back to verse 3 about how God's enemies have faked obedience because of God's might, and that fits with verse 7 which is about how God keeps watch so that the rebellious not exalt themselves. 

89:46-477 
How long, O Lord? Will You hide Yourself forever? Will Your wrath burn like fire? 47 Remember what my span of life is; For what vanity You have created all the sons of men! 
Sons of men = vanity that kindle God's wrath. 

107:4-11
They wandered in the wilderness in a desert region; They did not find a way to an inhabited city. 5 They were hungry and thirsty; Their soul fainted within them. 6 Then they cried out to the Lord in their trouble; He delivered them out of their distresses. 7 He led them also by a straight way, To go to an inhabited city. 8 Let them give thanks to the Lord for His lovingkindness, And for His wonders to the sons of men! 9 For He has satisfied the thirsty soul, And the hungry soul He has filled with what is good. 10 There were those who dwelt in darkness and in the shadow of death, Prisoners in misery and chains, 11 Because they had rebelled against the words of God And spurned the counsel of the Most High. Therefore He humbled their heart with labor; They stumbled and there was none to help.13 Then they cried out to the Lord in their trouble; He saved them out of their distresses.

God saves the sons of men who were proud in heart and afflicted because of their rebellion against the word of God. 

115:2-17
Why should the nations say, “Where, now, is their God?” 3 But our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases. 4 Their idols are silver and gold, The work of man’s hands. 5 They have mouths, but they cannot speak; They have eyes, but they cannot see; 6 They have ears, but they cannot hear; They have noses, but they cannot smell; 7 They have hands, but they cannot feel; They have feet, but they cannot walk; They cannot make a sound with their throat. 8 Those who make them will become like them, Everyone who trusts in them. 9 O Israel, trust in the Lord; He is their help and their shield. 10 O house of Aaron, trust in the Lord; He is their help and their shield. 11 You who fear the Lord, trust in the Lord; He is their help and their shield. 12 The Lord has been mindful of us; He will bless us; He will bless the house of Israel; He will bless the house of Aaron. 13 He will bless those who fear the Lord, The small together with the great. 14 May the Lord give you increase, You and your children. 15 May you be blessed of the Lord, Maker of heaven and earth. 16 The heavens are the heavens of the Lord, But the earth He has given to the sons of men. 17 The dead do not praise the Lord, Nor do any who go down into silence


We see these fleshly nations as the sons of men here who asking where the God of believers is, which is answered: In heaven. The contrast is evident in verse 16 and 17 which shows that these sons of men have the earth, with their idols and things of the world - but believers and God have heaven. They go to the grave, not eternal life with Christ. 

145:10-12
 All Your works shall give thanks to You, O Lord, And Your godly ones shall bless You. 11 They shall speak of the glory of Your kingdom And talk of Your power; 12 To make known to the sons of men Your mighty acts And the glory of the majesty of Your kingdom.

Godly ones are preaching of the kingdom to the sons of men.  That was a lot of Psalms. 

Proverbs 8:3
Beside the gates, at the opening to the city, At the entrance of the doors, she cries out: 4 “To you, O men, I call, And my voice is to the sons of men. 5 “O naive ones, understand prudence; And, O fools, understand wisdom.

Sons of men are contrary to wisdom, are fools, and naive. 

Ecclesiastes 1:13-15
 13 And I set my mind to seek and explore by wisdom concerning all that has been done under heaven. It is a grievous task which God has given to the sons of men to be afflicted with. 14 I have seen all the works which have been done under the sun, and behold, all is vanity and striving after wind. 15 What is crooked cannot be straightened and what is lacking cannot be counted.
Vanity and striving after the wind/nothingness. 

Ecclesiastes 2:1-3
 I said to myself, “Come now, I will test you with pleasure. So enjoy yourself.” And behold, it too was futility. 2 I said of laughter, “It is madness,” and of pleasure, “What does it accomplish?” 3 I explored with my mind how to stimulate my body with wine while my mind was guiding me wisely, and how to take hold of folly, until I could see what good there is for the sons of men to do under heaven the few years of their lives.
Drunken pleasure and carnality = ways of the sons of men. 

Ecclesiastes 9:3
This is an evil in all that is done under the sun, that there is one fate for all men. Furthermore, the hearts of the sons of men are full of evil and insanity is in their hearts throughout their lives. Afterwards they go to the dead.
Sons of men = Evil hearts and insanity throughout their whole lives. 

Jer 32:18-19
who shows lovingkindness to thousands, but repays the iniquity of fathers into the bosom of their children after them, O great and mighty God. The Lord of hosts is His name; 19 great in counsel and mighty in deed, whose eyes are open to all the ways of the sons of men, giving to everyone according to his ways and according to the fruit of his deeds
Sons of men = Iniquity

Lamentations 3:31-34
For the Lord will not reject forever, 32 For if He causes grief, Then He will have compassion According to His abundant lovingkindness. 33 For He does not afflict willingly Or grieve the sons of men.34 To crush under His feet All the prisoners of the land


Sons of men = prisoners and afflicted and rejected

Ezekiel 31:14
14 so that all the trees by the waters may not be exalted in their stature, nor set their top among the clouds, nor their well-watered mighty ones stand erect in their height. For they have all been given over to death, to the earth beneath, among the sons of men, with those who go down to the pit.”
Sons of men = those who go down into death and the pit. 

Daniel 2:36-38
36 “This was the dream; now we will tell its interpretation before the king. 37 You, O king, are the king of kings, to whom the God of heaven has given the kingdom, the power, the strength and the glory; 38 and wherever the sons of men dwell, or the beasts of the field, or the birds of the sky, He has given them into your hand and has caused you to rule over them all. You are the head of gold.
Sons of men are ruled over by the king of Babylon as God gave them into his hands. (not a good thing) 


Joel 1:11-13
Be ashamed, O farmers, Wail, O vinedressers, For the wheat and the barley; Because the harvest of the field is destroyed. 12 The vine dries up And the fig tree fails; The pomegranate, the palm also, and the apple tree, All the trees of the field dry up. Indeed, rejoicing dries up From the sons of men. 13 Gird yourselves with sackcloth And lament, O priests; Wail, O ministers of the altar! Come, spend the night in sackcloth O ministers of my God, For the grain offering and the drink offering Are withheld from the house of your God.

Sons of men = those suffering as God is not honored as commanded. 

Micah 5:6-8
They will shepherd the land of Assyria with the sword, The land of Nimrod at its entrances; And He will deliver us from the Assyrian When he attacks our land And when he tramples our territory. 7 Then the remnant of Jacob Will be among many peoples Like dew from the Lord, Like showers on vegetation Which do not wait for man Or delay for the sons of men. 8 The remnant of Jacob Will be among the nations, Among many peoples Like a lion among the beasts of the forest, Like a young lion among flocks of sheep, Which, if he passes through, Tramples down and tears, And there is none to rescue.
This one seems to contrast the favor of Jacob and the Lord blessing them with that of Nimrod and the Assyrians who delay at the time of harvest and = Sons of men. 
Mark 3:28
“Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter
The sons of men here being blasphemers. 

Ephesians 3:4-6
 By referring to this, when you read you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5 which in other generations was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed to His holy apostles and prophets in the Spirit; 6 to be specific, that the Gentiles are fellow heirs and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel

These sons of men didn't understand the mystery of Christ, which is that Christ has allowed these gentiles, who at one time were not walking in accordance to Christ or obedience to God, who were dead in their transgressions and lawlessness - to repent and become obedient Sons of God. 

As stated at the top of this post, sons of men is the opposite of Sons of God 

1 John 3:9-10
No one who has been born of God practices sin, because His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin continually, because he has been born of God. 10 By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother and sister.
The Sons of God are contrary to everything that we have just established in the sons of men. Sons of God do not continue in sin, like those who are sons of men have been walking in sin. 
Romans 9:25-27
“I will call those who were not My people, ‘My people,’
And her who was not beloved, ‘beloved.’”26 “And it shall be that in the place where it was said to them, ‘you are not My people,’ There they shall be called sons of the living God.”27 Isaiah cries out concerning Israel, “Though the number of the sons of Israel may be like the sand of the sea, only the remnant will be saved


 When we see that Sons of God are obedient, and faithful... 
And we see "sons of men" as a pejorative meaning those in sin and evil and licentiousness...

Then if we read Genesis 6 with these definitions, we can see that the "Sons of God" were led astray by the "daughters of men." They wouldn't be called sons of men in this connotation because they're women- but the definition would still fit in the context of everything that we have shown here because the result is forsaking God and the world engaging in violence and wickedness.  

Tuesday, May 28, 2024

Man's HEadship

 
Psalm 8:4
What is man that You take thought of him,
And the son of man that You care for him?
5 Yet You have made him a little lower than God,
And You crown him with glory and majesty!
6 You make him to rule over the works of Your hands;
You have put all things under his feet,
7 All sheep and oxen,
And also the beasts of the field,
8 The birds of the heavens and the fish of the sea,
Whatever passes through the paths of the seas.

Gen 1:28  God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Gen 2 
This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made earth and heaven. 5 Now no shrub of the field was yet in the earth, and no plant of the field had yet sprouted, for the Lord God had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground. 6 But a mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ground. 7 Then the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. 8 The Lord God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed. 9 Out of the ground the Lord God caused to grow every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
...

15 Then the Lord God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it. 16 The Lord God commanded the man, saying, “From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; 17 but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.”

18 Then the Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him.”

Gen 9
And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. 2 The fear of you and the terror of you will be on every beast of the earth and on every bird of the sky; with everything that creeps on the ground, and all the fish of the sea, into your hand they are given.

James 3:7
 For every species of beasts and birds, of reptiles and creatures of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by the human race*
*applied to things belonging to men


SO this adds another dynamic to what was happening in Peters vision. 


When Peter was being carried away with the Rabbis who regarded Gentiles as unclean and we see through many rabbinical writings that the rabbis state that that gentiles are beneath them...

Peter regarding gentiles as a lesser group that way would be denying gentile believers their true created purpose of Dominion in walking as reflectors of God's image and glory being the SAME as Jews who were elevating themselves- and not regarding gentiles the same as the native born according to the Torah - but like animals, gentiles being regarded as something to have dominion over , a still separate lesser body than the "people of faith"

God starts in Acts 10 with remarking that Cornelius' offerings and italian generosity are a perpetual memorial before Him. 


Who are Peter and the rabbis to deny that Cornelius was less of a reflection of God's call to Dominion than they? 

To say that because he was a gentile that he was somehow less, would be contrary to what was established before there was ever "Jews"


Saturday, March 30, 2024

Christ The Passover Lamb



Exodus 12

Speak to all the congregation of Israel, saying, ‘On the tenth of this month they are each one to take a lamb for themselves, according to their fathers’ households, a lamb for each household. 4 Now if the household is too small for a lamb, then he and his neighbor nearest to his house are to take one according to the number of persons in them; according to what each man should eat, you are to divide the lamb.

[Division of the lamb between everyone-John 6:53:
So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves.]

5 Your lamb shall be an unblemished male a year old; you may take it from the sheep or from the goats.

[ Unblemished lamb = the Savior 1 Peter 18
knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, 19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.

6 You shall keep it until the fourteenth day of the same month, then the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel is to kill it at twilight.

[ Luke 23: 44 It was now about the sixth hour, and darkness fell over the whole land until the ninth hour , 45 because the sun was obscured; and the veil of the temple was torn in two. 46 And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said, “Father, into Your hands I commit My spirit.” Having said this, He breathed His last
Fausset's Bible Dictionary states, “The ancient custom was to slay the Passover shortly after the daily sacrifice, i.e. three o'clock, with which hour Christ's death coincided.” (“Passover” Fausset's Bible Dictionary) 9th hour = 3pm

 8 They shall eat the flesh that same night, roasted with fire, and they shall eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs.
9 Do not eat any of it raw or boiled at all with water, but rather roasted with fire, both its head and its legs along with its entrails. 10 And you shall not leave any of it over until morning, but whatever is left of it until morning, you shall burn with fire.11 Now you shall eat it in this manner: with your loins girded, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and you shall eat it in haste—it is the Lord’s Passover.

[ Not the “Jewish Passover”, it is a Holy appointed time of God. ]

12 For I will go through the land of Egypt on that night, and will strike down all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments—I am the Lord. 13 The blood shall be a sign for you on the houses where you live; and when I see the blood I will pass over you, and no plague will befall you to destroy you when I strike the land of Egypt.

[The blood of the Lamb covers and saves the Household -Acts 16:31 They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."
1 Peter 1:19 knowing that you were not redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, 19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.

14 ‘Now this day will be a memorial to you, and you shall celebrate it as a feast to the Lord; throughout your generations you are to celebrate it as a permanent ordinance.

[Perpetual ordinance = for ever, always, continuous existence, perpetual, everlasting, indefinite or unending future, eternity]
15 Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread, but on the first day you shall remove leaven from your houses; for whoever eats anything leavened from the first day until the seventh day, that person shall be cut off from Israel.

[Deuteronomy 31:11-13 gives a breakdown of who Israel is: when all Israel comes to appear before the Lord your God at the place which He will choose, you shall read this law in front of all Israel in their hearing. 12 Assemble the people, the men and the women and children and the alien who is in your town, so that they may hear and learn and fear the Lord your God, and be careful to observe all the words of this law. 13 Their children, who have not known, will hear and learn to fear the Lord your God, as long as you live on the land which you are about to cross the Jordan to possess.]

16 On the first day you shall have a holy assembly, and another holy assembly on the seventh day; no work at all shall be done on them, except what must be eaten by every person, that alone may be prepared by you. 17 You shall also observe the Feast of Unleavened Bread, for on this very day I brought your hosts out of the land of Egypt; therefore you shall observe this day throughout your generations as a permanent ordinance. 18 In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at evening, you shall eat unleavened bread, until the twenty-first day of the month at evening.
[ Passover and Unleavened Bread go hand in hand - Matthew 26:17- Now on the first day of Unleavened Bread the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Where do You want us to prepare for You to eat the Passover?” 18 And He said, “Go into the city to a certain man, and say to him, ‘The Teacher says, “My time is near; I am to keep the Passover at your house with My disciples.”’” 19 The disciples did as Jesus had directed them; and they prepared the Passover.
19 Seven days there shall be no leaven found in your houses; for whoever eats what is leavened, that person shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he is an alien or a native of the land. 20 You shall not eat anything leavened; in all your dwellings you shall eat unleavened bread.’”
[ Leaven represents sin in this aspect, as having been redeemed in haste from bondage, Paul writes to the gentile corinthian church in 1 cor 5:6 "Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough? 7 Clean out the old leaven so that you may be a new lump, just as you are in fact unleavened. For Christ our Passover also has been sacrificed. 8 Therefore let us celebrate the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth."
21 Then Moses called for all the elders of Israel and said to them, “Go and take for yourselves lambs according to your families, and slay the Passover lamb. 22 You shall take a bunch of hyssop and dip it in the blood which is in the basin, and apply some of the blood that is in the basin to the lintel and the two doorposts; and none of you shall go outside the door of his house until morning.
23For the Lord will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when He sees the blood on the lintel and on the two doorposts, the Lord will pass over the door and will not allow the destroyer to come into your houses to smite you.


[John 10:7 So Jesus said to them again, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly. ]

24 And you shall observe this event as an ordinance for you and your children forever. 25 When you enter the land which the Lord will give you, as He has promised, you shall observe this rite. 26 And when your children say to you, ‘What does this rite mean to you?’ 27 you shall say, ‘It is a Passover sacrifice to the Lord who passed over the houses of the sons of Israel in Egypt when He smote the Egyptians, but spared our homes.’” And the people bowed low and worshiped.

[ Luke 22:15 And He said to them, “I have earnestly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer; 16 for I say to you, I shall never again eat it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.” 17 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He said, “Take this and share it among yourselves; 18 for I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine from now on until the kingdom of God comes.” 19 And when He had taken some bread and given thanks, He broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 20 And in the same way He took the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.]



28 Then the sons of Israel went and did so; just as the Lord had commanded Moses and Aaron, so they did.29 Now it came about at midnight that the Lord struck all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh who sat on his throne to the firstborn of the captive who was in the dungeon, and all the firstborn of cattle. 30 Pharaoh arose in the night, he and all his servants and all the Egyptians, and there was a great cry in Egypt, for there was no home where there was not someone dead. 31 Then he called for Moses and Aaron at night and said, “Rise up, get out from among my people, both you and the sons of Israel; and go, worship the Lord, as you have said. 32 Take both your flocks and your herds, as you have said, and go, and bless me also.”

33 The Egyptians urged the people, to send them out of the land in haste, for they said, “We will all be dead.” 34 So the people took their dough before it was leavened, with their kneading bowls bound up in the clothes on their shoulders.

35 Now the sons of Israel had done according to the word of Moses, for they had requested from the Egyptians articles of silver and articles of gold, and clothing; 36 and the Lord had given the people favor in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they let them have their request. Thus they plundered the Egyptians.

37 Now the sons of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand men on foot, aside from children. 38 A mixed multitude also went up with them, along with flocks and herds, a very large number of livestock.

[ A mixed multitude is being redeemed from Egypt. Not merely the Jews.]



39 They baked the dough which they had brought out of Egypt into cakes of unleavened bread. For it had not become leavened, since they were driven out of Egypt and could not delay, nor had they prepared any provisions for themselves.
40 Now the time that the sons of Israel lived in Egypt was four hundred and thirty years. 41 And at the end of four hundred and thirty years, ]to the very day, all the hosts of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt.
42 It is a night to be observed for the Lord for having brought them out from the land of Egypt; this night is for the Lord, to be observed by all the sons of Israel throughout their generations.
43 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “This is the ordinance of the Passover: no foreigner is to eat of it; 44 but every man’s slave purchased with money, after you have circumcised him, then he may eat of it. 45 A sojourner or a hired servant shall not eat of it. 46 It is to be eaten in a single house; you are not to bring forth any of the flesh outside of the house, nor are you to break any bone of it.
[ John 19: 31 Then the Jews, because it was the day of preparation, so that the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath for that Sabbath was a high day), asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. 32 So the soldiers came, and broke the legs of the first man and of the other who was crucified with Him; 33 but coming to Jesus, when they saw that He was already dead, they did not break His legs.]


47 All the congregation of Israel are to celebrate this. 48 But if a stranger sojourns with you, and celebrates the Passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near to celebrate it; and he shall be like a native of the land.
[ If you want to be part of Israel, you can be part of Israel, Paul states to the Gentile Ephesians in Ephesians 2 that they are part of Israel]

But no uncircumcised person may eat of it. 49 The same law shall apply to the native as to the stranger who sojourns among you.”

[ Jew and Gentile= Israel. Israel is and always has been a spiritual people saved by faith in God: Matthew 15:24  But He answered and said, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” ]


50 Then all the sons of Israel did so; they did just as the Lord had commanded Moses and Aaron. 51 And on that same day the Lord brought the sons of Israel out of the land of Egypt by their hosts.

[ Matthew 15:21 Jesus went away from there, and withdrew into the district of Tyre and Sidon. 22 And a Canaanite woman from that region came out and began to cry out, saying, “Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is cruelly demon-possessed.” 23 But He did not answer her a word. And His disciples came and implored Him, saying, “Send her away, because she keeps shouting at us.” 24 But He answered and said, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 25 But she came and began to bow down before Him, saying, “Lord, help me!” 26 And He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.” 27 But she said, “Yes, Lord; but even the dogs feed on the crumbs which fall from their masters’ table.” 28 Then Jesus said to her, “O woman, your faith is great; it shall be done for you as you wish.” And her daughter was healed at once. 
 Isaiah 52:13-53:8

13 Behold, My servant will prosper,
He will be high and lifted up and greatly exalted.
14 Just as many were astonished at you, My people,
So His appearance was marred more than any man
And His form more than the sons of men.
15 Thus He will sprinkle many nations,
Kings will shut their mouths on account of Him;
For what had not been told them they will see,
And what they had not heard they will understand.

The Suffering Servant
53 Who has believed our message?
And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot,
And like a root out of parched ground;
He has no stately form or majesty
That we should look upon Him,
Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him.
3 He was despised and forsaken of men,
A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief;
And like one from whom men hide their face
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.

4 Surely our griefs He Himself bore,
And our sorrows He carried;
Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.
6 All of us like sheep have gone astray,
Each of us has turned to his own way;
But the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all
To fall on Him.

7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He did not open His mouth;
Like a lamb that is led to slaughter,
And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers,
So He did not open His mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment He was taken away;
And as for His generation, who considered
That He was cut off out of the land of the living
For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due?

Friday, February 9, 2024

Breakdown of Jude

What is Jude talking about ?

For certain people have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into indecent behavior and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

 People that are appearing to be of Salvation, that are trusting that they are secure and are actually marked for destruction.  This is used is example in several following verses, noting the context is those who presume to be secure, and are then destroyed. 

 Now I want to remind you, though you know everything once and for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe. - Jude 

Taken from a place - Egypt   
Then- Destroyed 


Of note is that in this following verse, it is the only place angels are mentioned, where as translators add the word angels in two other verses to reconstruct the meaning of the text to be a doctrine regarding angels rather than about those who are putting trust in something other than God and following through with faith obedience.
 And angels who did not keep their own domain but abandoned their proper dwelling place, these He has kept in eternal restraints under darkness for the judgment of the great day


Angels had a place- Heaven 
Then- Chained in darkness for judgement day 

 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in sexual perversion and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.- Jude


A secure place - Sodom and Gomorrah  
Then- like the cities surrounding were destroyed for sexual deviance 

 People try to take verses 6,7, and 8 to be speaking about angels falling and engaging in sex presumably to try and build a case for fallen angels being sons of God and drawing off of extrabiblical enoch text... but a huge problem is that the word angels or angelic isn't in verse 7 and 8 and as is done with other passages like Job- assumptions are made and then built upon.  Jude states that the angels are in darkness awaiting judgement day, Enoch says that they are cast to earth, develops genitals , enter covenant relationships with earth women rather than fornicate, and sire a race of have angel- half human breed of Giants. In the effort to shoehorn this text to make it say something to affirm that doctrine 


Yet in the same way these people also, dreaming, defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak abusively of majesties. 9 But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him an abusive judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” 10 But these people disparage all the things that they do not understand; and all the things that they know by instinct, like unreasoning animals, by these things they are destroyed. - Jude 

Again. the context is a reverence for God and not a debased fleshly assurance or slander. Rather than this being an Extrabiblical showdown of the angels and the Devil of which we would have to look elsewhere than the scripture to find, I find that the reasoned explanation is that the body of Moses in question is not the physical bones of the Prophet, but rather a reference to the church and the argument with Joshua the High priest.

 Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right to accuse him. 2 And the Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, Satan! Indeed, the Lord who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a log snatched from the fire?” 3 Now Joshua was clothed in filthy garments and was standing before the angel. 4 And he responded and said to those who were standing before him, saying, “Remove the filthy garments from him.” Again he said to him, “See, I have taken your guilt away from you and will clothe you with festive robes.” 5 Then I said, “Have them put a clean headband on his head.” So they put the clean headband on his head and clothed him with garments, while the angel of the Lord was standing by.- Zechariah 3:1-5
He continues to say that in obedience faithfulness leads to being a member of the house of God 


 And the angel of the Lord admonished Joshua, saying, 7 “The Lord of armies says this: ‘If you walk in My ways and perform My service, then you will both govern My house and be in charge of My courtyards, and I will grant you free access among these who are standing here. - Zechariah 3:6-7
Note that this interpretation, without sensational interpretation, now fits not only within the bounds of established scripture but also fits with the context of Jude in that it is about humbly serving God and that faithfulness will be rewarded INSTEAD of spewing slander and turning aside to the works of the flesh. 
 
Woe to them! For they have gone the way of Cain, and for pay they have given themselves up to the error of Balaam, and perished in the rebellion of Korah. 12 These are the ones who are hidden reefs in your love feasts when they feast with you without fear, like shepherds caring only for themselves; clouds without water, carried along by winds; autumn trees without fruit, doubly dead, uprooted; 13 wild waves of the sea, churning up their own shameful deeds like dirty foam; wandering stars, for whom the gloom of darkness has been reserved forever. -Jude 
Who was Cain, He was man who was offering sacrifices to God who was warned by God that sin was looking to rule over him but he must master it, just like the context of these men in Jude that they must not trust in anything but God and continue in faithfulness not trusting in self or or position or place or even man made doctrine.  Now lets look at an objection regarding a prophesy that people say is quoting from extrabiblical sources such as Enoch:
 
  It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying,Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones, 15 to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
  • the Lord
  • with Holy Ones
  • and to repay the ungodly of their deeds 

Matthew  16:27 
For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.
  • The Lord
  • with holy ones 
  • repaying the ungodly of their deeds

Psalms 149

For the Lord takes pleasure in His people; He will beautify the afflicted ones with salvation. 5 Let the godly ones exult in glory; Let them sing for joy on their beds. 6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, And a two-edged sword in their hand, 7 To execute vengeance on the nations And punishment on the peoples,  8 To bind their kings with chains And their nobles with fetters of iron,9 To execute on them the judgment written;This is an honor for all His godly ones. Praise the Lord!


  • The Lord 
  • With Holy ones
  • repaying the ungodly for their deeds

 Matthew 25 

“But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; 33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. ... 40 The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’

41 “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; ... 44 Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

  • The Lord
  • With Holy ones
  • repaying the ungodly for their deeds

2 Thessalonians 1

This is a plain indication of God’s righteous judgment so that you will be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which indeed you are suffering. 6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, 7 and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, 8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed—for our testimony to you was believed.

  •  The Lord 
  • With Holy ones 
  • repaying ungodly for their deeds. 

As seen here the Judes prophesy is found in scripture without Enoch. Enoch being used to doesn't mean that Christ or Jude thought that Enoch was scripture any more than Paul citing Pagan philosophers and poets to convey a utilitarian truth. 

Pagan authors quoted or alluded to are:

Menander, Thais 218, quoting Euripides,"Evil company corrupts good habits" (1 Corinthians 15:33)

Epimenides, de Oraculis, (Titus 1–12:13) where Paul introduces Epimenides as "a prophet of the Cretans"; see Epimenides paradox)

Aratus, Phaenomena 5, (Acts 17:28 where Paul refers to the words of "some of your own poets")

None of these are scripture or considered scripture and it would be wrong to do so. 



Acts 17 

 The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; 25 nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things; 26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, 27 that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’ 29 Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man. 30 Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”

Returning back to Jude we can see that Jude is quite likely referencing Zechariah in context with the mentioning of the garments 

But you, beloved, ought to remember the words that were spoken beforehand by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ, 18 that they were saying to you, “In the last time there will be mockers, following after their own ungodly lusts.” 19 These are the ones who cause divisions, worldly-minded, devoid of the Spirit. 20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking forward to the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life. 22 And have mercy on some, who are doubting; 23 save others, snatching them out of the fire; and on some have mercy with fear, hating even the garment polluted by the flesh.- Jude

The unclean garment, just like in Zechariah taking the unclean and giving clean

 “See, I have taken your guilt away from you and will clothe you with festive robes.” 5 Then I said, “Have them put a clean headband on his head.” So they put the clean headband on his head and clothed him with garments, while the angel of the Lord was standing by -Zechariah 3:4-5
In conclusion Jude is not about angel sex or quoting a prophecy from an external source its about our security not being in a place, a doctrine, ourselves, or our flesh. It is found in Christ alone, and we must be faithful and humble that He clothed in Him and His righteousness. 

24 Now to Him who is able to protect you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory, blameless with great joy, 25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority before all time and now and forever. Amen.

 Amen. 

Sunday, January 14, 2024

Jude's Prophesy

Jude 1:14

  It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying,Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones, 15 to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
  • the Lord
  • with Holy Ones
  • and to repay the ungodly of their deeds 

Matthew  16:27 
For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY PERSON ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS.
  • The Lord
  • with holy ones 
  • repaying the ungodly of their deeds

Psalms 149

For the Lord takes pleasure in His people; He will beautify the afflicted ones with salvation. 5 Let the godly ones exult in glory; Let them sing for joy on their beds. 6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, And a two-edged sword in their hand, 7 To execute vengeance on the nations And punishment on the peoples,  8 To bind their kings with chains And their nobles with fetters of iron,9 To execute on them the judgment written;This is an honor for all His godly ones. Praise the Lord!


  • The Lord 
  • With Holy ones
  • repaying the ungodly for their deeds

 Matthew 25 

“But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; 33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. ... 40 The King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.’

41 “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; ... 44 Then they themselves also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

  • The Lord
  • With Holy ones
  • repaying the ungodly for their deeds

2 Thessalonians 1

This is a plain indication of God’s righteous judgment so that you will be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which indeed you are suffering. 6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, 7 and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, 8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed—for our testimony to you was believed.

  •  The Lord 
  • With Holy ones 
  • repaying ungodly for their deeds. 

As seen here the Judes prophesy is found in scripture without Enoch. Enoch being used to doesn't mean that Christ or Jude thought that Enoch was scripture any more than Paul citing Pagan philosophers and poets to convey a utilitarian truth. 

Pagan authors quoted or alluded to are:

Menander, Thais 218, quoting Euripides,"Evil company corrupts good habits" (1 Corinthians 15:33)

Epimenides, de Oraculis, (Titus 1–12:13) where Paul introduces Epimenides as "a prophet of the Cretans"; see Epimenides paradox)

Aratus, Phaenomena 5, (Acts 17:28 where Paul refers to the words of "some of your own poets")

None of these are scripture or considered scripture and it would be wrong to do so. 



Acts 17 

 The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; 25 nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things; 26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, 27 that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’ 29 Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man. 30 Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”



Thursday, January 11, 2024

A SCRIPTURAL profile of Nephilim (UPDATED)

 


I don’t know if it is possible to discuss this subject without it getting a little weird. To discuss who and what the Nephilim are, we must inevitably discuss the sons of God and who they are. To discuss what the Nephlim are, it's going to get weird. Not the interdimensional hyper spiritualized type of weird. No, more the “Humans can be so gross” kind of weird. What I intend to do is to use Scripture to showcase who and what the Nephilim are, as Scripture is authoritative. We are commanded in the Scriptures to not add or take away from the Bible, so I do my very best to find answers from the established 66 canonized books. I firmly believe that the answers are in the Bible. Yet, people often look outside of the Bible to other writings for perspectives of which they filter the Scriptures through. This is not good practice. I do not recommend looking at other non-biblical texts to try to understand actual Biblical text. I'll get into more detail on the authenticity of God’s word in a later chapter.

There are two main theories circulating about who the Nephilim were and who were the sons of God. Based on texts that are not the Bible, some have interpreted sons of God to mean fallen angels and the Nephilim as to be the sons of those fallen angels. This is basically the fallen angel theory and it’s derived from the apocryphal book of Enoch. Those who disagree with that interpretation are usually labeled as holding the Sethite view, that the sons of God were just a righteous lineage of Seth who replaced the murdered Abel as a son of Adam. However, what I see and will show is that neither of these views are accurate. It's not about lineage at all, it’s heart posture and obedience. The only lineage element is when the consequences of unrepentant sins of the fathers are being adapted as sins of the sons also, genetically. Are you ready to get weird? There’s a lot to get through, so let’s get started.

What does “Nephilim” mean?

 × ְפִיל nᵉphîyl, nef-eel'; or × ְפִל nᵉphil; from H5307; properly, a feller, i.e. a bully or tyrant:—giant.








The root word shows it's not about sky giants, but it's about those who fall away from obedience and faith, ceasing to be cultivators. Instead, they become destroyers—hunters.

Those who hold the fallen angels viewpoint might ask, “What about the Orion constellation, surely that means that they fell from space like fallen angels wouldn’t it?” While I understand how one might come to that conclusion, no, I do not believe that is what it is referring to. 

Matthew 2:2 “Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east and have come to worship Him.”

It continues:

Matthew 2:7-10 Then Herod secretly called the magi and determined from them the exact time the star appeared. 8 And he sent them to Bethlehem and said, “Go and search carefully for the Child; and when you have found Him, report to me, so that I too may come and worship Him.” 9 After hearing the king, they went their way; and the star, which they had seen in the east, went on before them until it came and stood over the place where the Child was. 10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced exceedingly with great joy.

Why did they know that this star was proclaiming the birth of the Messiah?

Genesis 1:14 Then God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years

This is not astrology, this is biblical astronomy in the order of God. What is the imagery of Orion’s constellation? Orion is the constellation for the hunter. As the Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon states, it is incorrect to ascribe the Nephilim to be large in body over the definition of being bully/tyrant/ hunters that strike down—fellers of men and armies. Make no mistake, there are giants in the Bible and I'll get to the “large in body” in a moment. First, we can see the definitions as cast down like excommunication or cut down like death, as in extinguishing a life, or in some respects to seemingly just lay down as in surrender like one would in abandoning the faith. Fallen from grace. Look at this word God uses as it pertains to Cain in Genesis 4:6:


 







What is man supposed to do and be? A cultivator shepherd who protects and prospers that which entrusted into his care. What is the opposite of that? A hunter, killer, bully, tyrant. We can see examples of these hunters who reject the ways of God and embrace actively walking contrary to them. Let's look at the first bully, tyrant, feller of men: Cain. 

Genesis 4:8-12 Cain told Abel his brother. And it came about when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother and killed him. 9 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” And he said, “I do not know. Am I my brother’s keeper?” 10 He said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood is crying to Me from the ground. 11 Now you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you cultivate the ground, it will no longer yield its strength to you; you will be a vagrant and a wanderer on the earth.” Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden.

As we established in the previous chapters, Cain was warned by God about what was good and pleasing according to His authority. Cain was told outright that sin sought to rule over him. Cain rejected the dominion that God ordered him to walk in and instead chose dominance over his brother. He rejected God and hated his brother because his brother's deeds were righteous and his were not.

1 John 3:11-12 For this is the message which you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another; 12 not as Cain, who was of the evil one and slew his brother. And for what reason did he slay him? Because his deeds were evil, and his brother’s were righteous.

 Look at the way that Cain parallels Esau:

Genesis 27:39-41 Then Isaac his father answered and said to him, “Behold, away from the fertility of the earth shall be your dwelling, And away from the dew of heaven from above. 40 “By your sword you shall live, And your brother you shall serve; But it shall come about when you become restless, That you will break his yoke from your neck.” 41 So Esau bore a grudge against Jacob because of the blessing with which his father had blessed him; and Esau said to himself, “The days of mourning for my father are near; then I will kill my brother Jacob.” 

Cain was jealous of Abel because of the blessing of the Father and he sought to kill his brother—and did. He was cursed to wander. Comparatively, Esau the hunter was jealous of Jacob because of the blessing of the father and sought to kill his brother, bearing a grudge, and he was cast away from the fertility of the earth to wander.

It isn't a lineage that made men Nephilim, it is actions. It is a heart posture that abandons faith and walks in the ways contrary to God.

1 John 3 :12 not as Cain, who was of the evil one and slew his brother. And for what reason did he slay him? Because his deeds were evil, and his brother’s were righteous

Whose son was Cain? Was he not Adam's son? The designation of being a son of the Evil one is based on action. 

 

Genesis 4:1 Now the man had relations with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain, and she said, “I have gotten a manchild with the help of the Lord.”

Cain was born to Adam and Eve but he was cut off from the family based on his actions and rejection of the ways of God. He became a killer, tyrant, bully, mighty one, feller of his brother...He became a Nephilim. The son of Cain followed in his father’s footsteps in the rejection of the ways of God, as Lamech engages in polygamy and murder:

Genesis 4:19-24 Lamech took to himself two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other, Zillah. ... 23 Lamech said to his wives, “Adah and Zillah, Listen to my voice, You wives of Lamech, Give heed to my speech, For I have killed a man for wounding me; And a boy for striking me; 24 If Cain is avenged sevenfold, Then Lamech seventy-sevenfold.”

If you have a group of people who have rejected the commands of God and are engaging in a flesh-based, polygamist family model, and having kids that are also rejecting the ways of God and engaging in ungodly relations, you’re not getting a lot of genetic variance.

 Genesis 4:26 To Seth, to him also a son was born; and he called his name Enosh. Then men began to call upon the name of the Lord.

“There are some who translate this verse, to call themselves by the name of the Lord. This would indicate that people were defying God by attributing deity to themselves. If this is the case, this verse may refer to the heathen idolatry that started at this time.” - Don Stewart Blue Letter Bible 


What does this present to us? It shows us the rebellion against God. It can make the case that Lamech is also a bully, tyrant, and feller of men. It can show us the violent culture of those who reject God’s ways. It can show us those who are embracing a fleshly lifestyle. God’s pattern of marriage that was established at creation is one man and one wife. 

Genesis 2:24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.

It doesn't say that man shall be joined to “wives” and become one flesh; there is no plurality. 

Matthew 19:5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?

Again, a man, a wife, the two people, becoming one flesh. God never explicitly commands people to take multiple wives. We do have Him prohibiting it:

Deuteronomy 17:17 He shall not multiply wives for himself, or else his heart will turn away; nor shall he greatly increase silver and gold for himself.


Taking multiple wives is contrary to the example of Christ returning for His bride. He doesn’t return for His brides. He’s coming for the one bride, the apple of his eye. What those who have rejected the ways of God have patterned is: one man and…whatever that man wants. Look at the son of Lamech, Tubal-cain:

Genesis 4: As for Zillah, she also gave birth to Tubal-cain, the forger of all implements of bronze and iron; and the sister of Tubal-cain was Naamah.

Cain, who murdered his brother, has Lamech, who also is a murderer more so than his father, who has Tubal-cain, who becomes an arms dealer. Alright, maybe not an arms dealer, but he’s definitely making swords and the point stands. Lamech rejected God’s pattern of marriage and engaged in the polygamy in flesh-based domination.

Leviticus 18:18 You shall not marry a woman in addition to her sister as a rival while she is alive, to uncover her nakedness.

 Esau follows that same pattern of rejection of God’s dominion and instead seeks to establish a fleshly dominance. 

Genesis 28:8-9 So Esau saw that the daughters of Canaan displeased his father Isaac; 9 and Esau went to Ishmael, and married, besides the wives that he had, Mahalath the daughter of Ishmael, Abraham’s son, the sister of Nebaioth.

Esau, just like great uncle Lamech. Esau despised his birthright. He despised the ways of the Father. He was a hunter, much like…

Genesis 10:8-10 Now Cush became the father of Nimrod; he became a mighty one on the earth. 9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord; therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod a mighty hunter before the Lord.” 10 The beginning of his kingdom was Babel and Erech and Accad and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.


1 Chronicles 1:10 Cush fathered Nimrod; he began to be a mighty one on the earth.

Nimrod was a hunter and he became a mighty one on the earth. Now hold on a second. He became a mighty one? It was these killers and tyrants that became the mighty ones of old mentioned in Genesis 6… 

Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came into the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

What does Nimrod mean?

It means "rebellion". The Nephilim were mighty men of old, and Nimrod began to be one of these mighty men. If this were the fallen angel theory, then that would mean that Nimrod, halfway through his life, would have to decide to be reborn as offspring of the fallen angels. It makes a lot more sense if you see it for what the text points to: Nimrod began to be a bully, tyrant, murderer. He became a man of rebellion as Nimrod was a "mighty one". 

Genesis 6:4 states that the mighty ones were men of renown. Men. Men of violence. He was a hunter just like Esau who wanted to kill his brother. He was in rebellion like Cain who rejected the ways of God. He founded Babylon which was a testament to man instead of God. I maintain that the designation of the Nephilim is referring to a man of violence. The fact that we can see the lineage of Nimrod whose father was Cush, who became a Nephilim/ mighty one, tells us that the giants in Moses’ day were humans, not fallen angel half human hybrids. 


I know, there are giants in the Bible, I said I would get to that. There’s time like the present, so let's look at Goliath, as he was one of these mighty ones.

1 Samuel 17:4-7 Then a champion came out from the armies of the Philistines named Goliath, from Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span. 5 He had a bronze helmet on his head, and he was clothed with scale-armor which weighed five thousand shekels of bronze. 6 He also had bronze greaves on his legs and a bronze javelin slung between his shoulders. 7 The shaft of his spear was like a weaver’s beam, and the head of his spear weighed six hundred shekels of iron; his shield-carrier also walked before him.

The average height of man in the United States is 5ft 9in. The average weight of gear and armor for the United States Army infantry man is 120 lbs of gear. Goliath’s gear was about 200 to 300 lbs for a man of 7 to 9ft in height. He was a destroyer, one that made a reputation as a champion of the Philistines, a killer, a feller of armies and men. Goliath was a descendant of Anak. 

Numbers 13 states that there were men of great size and there were the Nephilim 

Numbers 13 connects the Nephilim with the sons of Anak (the Anakim)

 Joshua 11 notes that the Anakim were driven into Gaza, Gath, and Ashdod.

1 Samuel 17 says Goliath was from Gath and that he was a giant.

Why are there giants? Why do they have six fingers and toes? The answer to this is so simple it's easy to overlook. Sin. The wages of sin and the curses that come from rebellion against God. Let's look at the curses that come from rejecting God’s dominion and instead choosing to become a man of warlike dominance in hostile rebellion to God. Deuteronomy 27 lists some of the curses. 

Cursed is he who dishonors his father or mother.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’

‘Cursed is he who strikes his neighbor in secret.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’

‘Cursed is he who accepts a bribe to strike down an innocent person.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’

‘Cursed is he who does not confirm the words of this law by doing them.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’

It continues in the next chapter, Deuteronomy 28:

“The Lord will send upon you curses, confusion, and rebuke, in all you undertake to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, on account of the evil of your deeds, because you have forsaken Me. 21 The Lord will make the pestilence cling to you until He has consumed you from the land where you are entering to possess it. 22 The Lord will smite you with consumption and with fever and with inflammation and with fiery heat and with the sword and with blight and with mildew, and they will pursue you until you perish

 “If you are not careful to observe all the words of this law which are written in this book, to fear this honored and awesome name, the Lord your God, 59 then the Lord will bring extraordinary plagues on you and your descendants, even severe and lasting plagues, and miserable and chronic sicknesses.

Sin and rebellion against the ways of God. Rebellion and hostility against faith in God and against loving God. Rejection of walking with God in whom all His paths are peace results in disease and hereditary afflictions, such as but not limited to: gigantisms, which is a tumor on the pituitary gland, and polydactyly, which is extra fingers and toes. Both of which still exist to this day.

Deuteronomy 28 gives us reasons for the genetic attributes of giants- but it is the choice of action and the rejection of God and God’s ways that make them Nephilim. If you have God-given laws which state you’re not to be incestuously sleeping with your mother or sister and you’re ignoring these commands out of a spiteful hatred of the things of God, then your offspring is not going to have a lot of genetic variances. If you are walking in the curses that God laid out as a spiritual cause and effect, you are going to be predisposed to hereditary diseases, just like God says in Deuteronomy about the sins of the fathers being passed down.

Romans 1:24 24¶Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.


Studies have shown this to be the case with issues such as alcoholism, that the children of alcoholics have a greater disposition to alcoholism. Look back at the context of Genesis 6: 

Genesis 6:-31 Now it came about, when men [human men] began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them [secular daughters of these human men], 2 that the sons of God [believers] saw that the daughters of men[secular women] were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man [human men] forever, because he also is flesh [still human men]; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”


Men were being led away from the faith and obedience by enticing women. These once obedient sons of God (the church) were taking wives for themselves whomever they chose. One way to interpret that “whomever they chose” aspect might be that they were not following God’s idea of marriage between one man and one wife, but were instead following Cain’s son Lamech’s example and choosing many wives, whomever they wanted. Regardless as to if it was many wives or being led astray by secular women that they were taking as wives, the point remains that they were leaving what was right and they were being led astray by these women…just like with Balaam.

Numbers 31:15 And Moses said to them, “Have you spared all the women? 16 Behold, these caused the sons of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, so the plague was among the congregation of the Lord. 

There was (and still is) a pattern of men ignoring what God has called them to do, in the way that they should walk, and abandoning the call to reflect the glory of God in which we were created to reflect. Instead, they  went astray after the wayward women. Just like Adam in the garden. Let’s continue in Genesis 6 with the exposition:

Genesis 6: 4 The Nephilim [ Hunter/ Bully / Tyrant/ Murderers] were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

A visual need a timeline for things like this can be helpful, so I drafted this chart:




Genesis 6:5-13 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 The Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 The Lord said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord. 9 These are the records of the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his time; Noah walked with God. 10 Noah became the father of three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

11 Now the earth was corrupt in the sight of God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 God looked on the earth, and behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted their way upon the earth. 13 Then God said to Noah, “The end of all flesh has come before Me; for the earth is filled with violence because of them; and behold, I am about to destroy them with the earth

 

Adam was a shepherd, cultivator who bore the image of God. Abel was a shepherd and offered what was good and his deeds were righteous before God. Noah was a shepherd and found favor in the eyes of God, doing what is good, a preacher of righteousness. Jacob was a shepherd and cultivator who didn't choose multiple wives, he was tricked into it, and honored his vows to both women anyway. David was a shepherd and a cultivator before he was king.

Contrastly, Cain rejected the ways of God and became a killer—de-cultivator. Lemech was a polygamist and greater killer than Cain—de-cultivator. Esau rejected the ways of God and became a hunter—de-cultivator. Nimrod was a mighty one who made Babel in defiance of God and was a hunter—de-cultivator. 


The fallen angel theory of the sons of God being angels at its core sounds absurd when you break it down to its elements.

Angels, who are constantly before God, rebelled against God. Although Scripture states God cast them into darkness in chains awaiting judgment, He allowed these fallen angels, who would now be classified as demons once they’re exiled from heaven, allowed them to make a pit stop at earth and they somehow developed genitalia. Then, they entered into covenant sexual relationships with earthly women, as it says they took wives not fornicated with unmarried women, and sired offspring that resulted in half-angel, half-man giant demi god-like creatures. God opens and closes the womb. God knits creatures together in the womb, but we're supposed to believe that fallen angels who were kicked out of heaven and became demons were allowed to enter into covenant relationships with human wives and God opened their wombs and knit together a half-angel half-human hybrid that became a giant? That sounds like Greek mythology and Mt. Olympus. It doesn’t sound like the sovereign God of the Bible. Furthermore, The fallen angels theory states that after the angels did this, that is why God wiped out everyone but Noah, in order to preserve a pure bloodline. Does that sound like the God of order? That He wiped out all the earth after making this mistake with the angels, only for the Nephilim to pop back up again after the flood? When we look at the entirety of the texts and we reason them together using the Scriptures instead of external, non-canon books that distort the doctrines of God, we can find clarity.

What we see is that Genesis 6 is not angel-demon babies being born and the union of spirits and women resulting in God killing all the men in the world for some reason, but it is about violence  What we see is that actions and choices are what makes one a son of God or reject God. That’s what makes one a Nephilim. 

Even Josephus in the Antiquities of the Jews points to this in regard to Nimrod. He writes:

“God also commanded them to send colonies abroad, for the through peopling of the earth; that they might not raise seditions among themselves, but might cultivate a great part of the earth, and enjoy its fruits after a plentiful manner. But they were so ill instructed, that they did not obey God. For which reason they fell into calamities, and were made sensible by experience of what sin they had been guilty of. For when they flourished with a numerous youth, God admonished them again to send out colonies. But they imagining the prosperity they enjoyed was not derived from the favour of God, but supposing that their own power was the proper cause of the plentiful condition they were in, did not obey him. Nay they added to this their disobedience to the divine will, the suspicion that they were therefore ordered to send out separate colonies, that, being divided asunder, they might the more easily be oppressed. 2. Now it was Nimrod who excited them to such an affront and contempt of God. He was the grand-son of Ham, the son of Noah: a bold man, and of great strength of hand. He persuaded them not to ascribe it to God, as if it was through his means that they were happy; but to believe that it was their own courage which procured that happiness. He also gradually changed the government into tyranny; seeing no other way of turning men from the fear of God, but to bring them into a constant dependence on his own power. He also said, “He would be revenged on God, if he should have a mind to drown the world again: for that he would build a Tower too high for the waters to be able to reach; and that he would avenge himself on God for destroying their fore-fathers.”- Josephus Antiquities of the Jews1.109–1.113 translated by William Whiston 

[ Disclaimer: Josephus is not Scripture and shouldn’t be taken as Scripture, but he was a Jewish Historian documenting the thoughts and interpretations of his time] 

Nimrod, this mighty one—this Nephilim—is creating violence against the ones who are obedient farmers and cultivators in the faith, for the purpose of getting them to reject God and become dependent upon his hand. Another way of saying this is that "the Nephilim were on the earth and made violence against God imposing tyranny and leading the sons of God astray".

1 John 3:10, By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.

Deuteronomy 14:1-2,You are the sons of the Lord your God; you shall not cut yourselves nor shave your forehead for the sake of the dead. 2 For you are a holy people to the Lord your God, and the Lord has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.

Romans 8:14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.

Romans 8:19 For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.

Romans 9:25-27 As He says also in Hosea, “I will call those who were not My people, ‘My people,’ And her who was not beloved, ‘beloved.’” 26 “And it shall be that in the place where it was said to them, ‘you are not My people,’ There they shall be called sons of the living God.” 27 Isaiah cries out concerning Israel, “Though the number of the sons of Israel be like the sand of the sea, it is the remnant that will be saved.”

Galatians 3:26, For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.

Galatians 4:6, Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”

Luke 6:35, But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men.

1 Chronicles 17:13-16, I will be his father and he shall be My son; and I will not take My lovingkindness away from him, as I took it from him who was before you. 14 But I will settle him in My house and in My kingdom forever, and his throne shall be established forever.”’” 15 According to all these words and according to all this vision, so Nathan spoke to David.16 Then David the king went in and sat before the Lord and said, “Who am I, O Lord God, and what is my house that You have brought me this far?”

Luke 20:34-36 Jesus said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage, 35 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; 36 for they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.”

Take note that this last passage in Luke 20 is stating that the sons of this age are the sons of God being sons of the resurrection. This passage states that the sons of this age marry and are given into marriage, not the angels. Think about the logic of Genesis 6. Does it make sense that fallen angels would take earthly wives, and instead of punishing the angels or the women that slept with them, God took it out on the men? No. What does the Scripture say? It says because of violence and because of the wickedness of man's heart that God was grieved that He made man.

Genesis 6:5-8 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 The Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 The Lord said, “I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.

 Men were continually walking contrary to the dominion of which they were supposed to govern. Because men refused to walk in the divinely set dominion that God had given, God exercised His dominion by removing man. They were evil. Paul mentions this sort in Romans 1:

Romans 1:28-32 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them

2 Peter 2:5 …and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly.

God saved Noah because He was still walking in the created role. He was obedient to God and preaching God’s righteousness to those who were engaging in all forms of sin. Think about this: God saw these men that bear His image and were created for His glory—created to be vessels of His love—and they were the most perverse, evil, hostile, violent, and lawless that people can be. Rapists, pedophiles, oppressors engaging in hedonistic, flesh-appeasing Darwinism. They lived by the mindset that if it feels good to the flesh, do it. If you want something, take it. If you’re crossed, kill.

If the generational curses of breaking the eternal Law of God resulted in violent, incestuous men engaging in reproduction with members of their own family, then the violence that God saw grieved Him so much He destroyed mankind, sparing only Noah. These Nephilim were wiped out by the flood. God destroyed them all. So, why then do they reappear after the flood? We can see the answer to that in the text itself. In Genesis 9, when everyone gets off the boat, God reminds them: 

Genesis 9:6 “Whoever sheds man’s blood, By man his blood shall be shed, For in the image of God He made man. 7“As for you, be fruitful and multiply; Populate the earth abundantly and multiply in it.”

This is the third time God reminds mankind to be fruitful and multiply. In the garden, in the expulsion, and right after the destruction of the world. This is the contrast between the Nephilim destroyer and the Righteous cultivator. What immediately happens after this catastrophic event of the world's destruction due to violence and rejection of God’s ways? Ham and the issue of nakedness. 

Genesis 9:22-26 Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brothers outside. 23 But Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it upon both their shoulders and walked backward and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were turned away, so that they did not see their father’s nakedness. 24 When Noah awoke from his wine, he knew what his youngest son had done to him. 25 So he said,“Cursed be Canaan; A servant of servants He shall be to his brothers.” 26 He also said, “Blessed be the Lord, The God of Shem; And let Canaan be his servant.

This is gross, I know. In every way you look at it, I know it is gross, but let me show you from the Scriptures what I believe happened during this event, and why Noah cursed Ham’s offspring instead of Ham. What does it mean to uncover nakedness in Leviticus 18?

Leviticus 18:7-17 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father, that is, the nakedness of your mother. She is your mother; you are not to uncover her nakedness. 8 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s wife; it is your father’s nakedness. 9 The nakedness of your sister, either your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether born at home or born outside, their nakedness you shall not uncover. 10 The nakedness of your son’s daughter or your daughter’s daughter, their nakedness you shall not uncover; for their nakedness is yours. 11 The nakedness of your father’s wife’s daughter, born to your father, she is your sister, you shall not uncover her nakedness. 12 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s sister; she is your father’s blood relative. 13 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your mother’s sister, for she is your mother’s blood relative. 14 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s brother; you shall not approach his wife, she is your aunt. 15 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your daughter-in-law; she is your son’s wife, you shall not uncover her nakedness. 16 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your brother’s wife; it is your brother’s nakedness. 17 You shall not uncover the nakedness of a woman and of her daughter, nor shall you take her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter, to uncover her nakedness; they are blood relatives. It is lewdness



Gross. It's in the Bible because people have struggled with it. The command is there for a reason. Here's the definition:

In Ham’s case , it was to engage in incest and rape. How can we be sure? Because in the passage of Leviticus 18, it states that the inhabitants of Cannan did these very things. 

Leviticus 18:1-3;26-27 Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 2 “Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them, ‘I am the Lord your God. 3 You shall not do what is done in the land of Egypt where you lived, nor are you to do what is done in the land of Canaan where I am bringing you; you shall not walk in their statutes.

26 But as for you, you are to keep My statutes and My judgments and shall not do any of these abominations, neither the native, nor the alien who sojourns among you 27 (for the men of the land who have been before you have done all these abominations, and the land has become defiled)


God destroyed the world filled with people who engaged in this lewdness, and then Noah and his sons were spared because of Noah’s righteousness. Ham engaged in the same practices that destroyed the world before him, incest and rape and lewd acts of dominance.

It then makes sense as to why Noah curses the son of Ham. This son was the product of that incestuous rape of Ham’s mother as his father Noah lay vulnerable and unconscious from wine. It also explains the post-flood return of the Nephilim, as the practices of selective breeding and incest returned immediately. As men again sprawled out over the face of the earth and built cities, some in hostile defiance towards God, perhaps even angry that He wiped out the old, lewd ways. Some probably bore grudges against God. God created mankind for a purpose, and that purpose is contrary to our wicked, fleshly desires that are naturally hostile to His Spirit. Anak and Goliath, his descendant, were from the line of Canaan.

As the people populated the earth and men again began to engage in the practices of wickedness, and as the history of the dominance of the barbarian warlord type of man grew stronger, passed down from Noah’s descendants, then it might explain why Abraham and Issac both were afraid as they sojourned in the foreign lands. If they knew that their wives were beautiful and they were familiar with the family history of men murdering godly people to steal their wives as their own, then it would be at the very least an understandable fear that drove them to tell their wives to pretend to be their sisters rather than their wives. The fear that a violent Nephilim man of dominance would murder them and take their beautiful wives as their own was valid. While this might just be a theory, it’s a reasonable one that bears itself out in the context of these stories.

What we don’t see, however, is the post-flood idea that post-heaven angels retained the title “sons of God” and sired another batch of half-angel, half-human giants. Here’s a question to consider: Scripture states that God is the one who opens and closes the womb, and it also states that God is the one that knits together in the womb.

Psalms 139:13-16 For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb. 14 I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Wonderful are Your works, And my soul knows it very well. 15 My frame was not hidden from You, When I was made in secret, And skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth; 16 Your eyes have seen my unformed substance; And in Your book were all written The days that were ordained for me, When as yet there was not one of them.

Genesis 30:17-22 God gave heed to Leah, and she conceived and bore Jacob a fifth son. 18 Then Leah said, “God has given me my wages because I gave my maid to my husband.” So she named him Issachar. 19 Leah conceived again and bore a sixth son to Jacob. 20 Then Leah said, “God has endowed me with a good gift; now my husband will dwell with me, because I have borne him six sons.” So she named him Zebulun. 21 Afterward she bore a daughter and named her Dinah. 22 Then God remembered Rachel, and God gave heed to her and opened her womb.

Acts 17:25 The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; 25 nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things

Romans 11:36 For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. To Him be the glory forever. Amen.

As all life comes from God, and He is the one who opens and closes the womb, and He knits together life in the womb, then the logic of the fallen angel demon-baby theory becomes this: God rejected angles and kicked them out of heaven then allowed them to enter into sexual relationships with women of earth and procreate a new half-man, half-angel creature—and He allowed this by opening the wombs of these women and then knitting together these giant half-breed demi god-like creatures. Then He flooded the earth because of these same giant demon human babies. That is not good doctrine. That is foolishness. There are no verses that say angels are sons of God anywhere in Scripture unless the reader inserts it into the text based not on the Word of God but based on their own suppositions from outside the word of God. I’ll walk you through those passages too.


Some say that Job references angels where it says in Job 1:

Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.

And again in chapter 2:

Job 2:1 Again, there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the Lord.

The fact that "sons of God" appeared before the Lord does not automatically mean that the sons of God are angels and there is nothing in the text to support that. What is more harmonious to the totality of scripture, in my opinion, is that the sons of God are the righteous and obedient men. If we look at Exodus 23, we see the command for the righteous men of God to appear before Him:


Exodus 23:14-16 “Three times a year you shall celebrate a feast to Me. 15 You shall keep the Feast of Unleavened Bread; for seven days you are to eat unleavened bread, as I commanded you, at the appointed time in the month of Abib, for in that month you came out of Egypt. And no one is to appear before Me empty-handed. 16 Also you shall keep the Feast of the Harvest of the first fruits of your labors from what you sow in the field; also the Feast of the Ingathering at the end of the year when you gather in the fruit of your labors from the field. 17 Three times a year all your males shall appear before the Lord God.

Echoed in Exodus 34:


Exodus 34: 19-24 “The firstborn from every womb belongs to Me, and all your male livestock, the firstborn from cattle and sheep. 20 You shall redeem with a lamb the firstborn from a donkey; and if you do not redeem it, then you shall break its neck. You shall redeem all the firstborn of your sons. None are to appear before Me empty-handed.

21 “You shall work six days, but on the seventh day you shall rest; even during plowing time and harvest you shall rest. 22 And you shall celebrate the Feast of Weeks, that is, the first fruits of the wheat harvest, and the Feast of Ingathering at the turn of the year. 23 Three times a year all your males are to appear before the Lord God, the God of Israel. 24 For I will drive out nations from you and enlarge your borders, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times a year to appear before the Lord your God.

Three times a year, all the righteous and obedient men are to appear before the Lord. Three times a year, we’re to come to the Father and appear before the King. This is the Passover where God makes the distinction between those who are His and those who are in rebellion. It’s the beginning of the harvest when we are to be about the business that God created us to be about. And it is the end of the harvest when we rejoice with God that He may say well done good and faithful servant. As mentioned previously, Jethro was a Midianite priest and Job was a righteous man.

Job 1:1 There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job; and that man was blameless, upright, fearing God and turning away from evil.

Job would fit under the definition of a son of God in light of the Scriptures mentioned previously. Interesting enough, Exodus 34 talks about protection for these men who appear before God:

Exodus 34: 24 For I will drive out nations before you and enlarge your borders, and no man shall covet your land when you go up three times a year to appear before the Lord your God.

 Is this not the very objection Satan makes to God that is applying to Job:

 Job 1: Have You not made a fence around him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. 


Job was a righteous man, and what did that man do? 

 

Job 2:1 Again, there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the Lord.

 Job 2:3 The Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered My servant Job? For there is no one like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man fearing God and turning away from evil. And he still holds firm to his integrity, although you incited Me against him to ruin him without cause.


Look at what we see in this passage in 1 Samuel:

1 Samuel 1:21 Then the man Elkanah went up with all his household to offer to the Lord the yearly sacrifice and pay his vow. 22 But Hannah did not go up, for she said to her husband, “I will not go up until the child is weaned; then I will bring him, that he may appear before the Lord and stay there forever.”

It's reasonable to see that Job was performing at least the annual sacrifices when the men are called to appear before God, and Job is concerned that his household hasn’t done this. That suggests sons of God are a classification of people that do righteousness, and those who don't are not sons of God. This is affirmed in Scripture time and again. 

1 John 3:10 No one who has been born of God practices sin, because His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin continually, because he has been born of God. 10 By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother and sister.

Ergo, the men of righteousness appearing before the Lord at the appointed times would be in line with men, and not angels, being the sons of God. Those that hold to the fallen angel demon-baby theory point to Job 38 to say that this must mean angels. The case made by those who hold to this position is that the stars sing and they are angels who sing and because angels sing, they’re also the sons of God. Using Job 38:7 to say that sons of God means angels is still an injection of that interpretation to the text when the text doesn't suppose it. This is what it says:

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together And all the sons of God shouted for joy?

That was it. That verse doesn’t say angels are the sons of God. It doesn’t equate the two. It only says that these sons of God shouted for joy. Now, I grant that the context of this passage is God talking about the creation of the world. However, in this passage, we see creative imagery and not literal things. The sea is not enclosed with doors, and it didn't come from the womb. Clouds aren't clothes. Morning stars and sons of God shouting for joy doesn't mean that sons of God are angels.
If we consider Job 38 where God is communicating His deep concepts to Job and He mentions stars singing and sons of God, we still would have to inject angels as one of these two things in a poetic passage that also states that ice comes from "lady parts"as verse 29 states. This would also indicate that God wasn't down-dressing Job verbally, but that Job was actually at creation during its formation as God says, "tell me who laid the foundation because surely you were there".

Job 38:19 “Where is the way to the dwelling of light? And darkness, where is its place,

20 That you may take it to its territory And that you may discern the paths to its home?

21 “You know, for you were born then, And the number of your days is great!

 It's a hyper literalism fallacy. It’s rhetorical. God is not reminding Job that Job was there when He created Adam and commanded the bounds of light and darkness. He’s speaking in poetic imagery to remind Job that God is sovereign and beyond Jobs' understanding. Here’s another thing to think about in relation to these “stars”:

Jude 1: 12 These are the men who are hidden reefs in your love feasts when they feast with you without fear, caring for themselves; clouds without water, carried along by winds; autumn trees without fruit, doubly dead, uprooted; 13 wild waves of the sea, casting up their own shame like foam; wandering stars, for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever

Jude is calling these stars men. The context of Jude is a different disposition of the men as Job records a joyful, worshiping event, and Jude has those men as becoming rebellious and reserved for judgment—both still refer to men. 

Let's also look at the contrast found in Psalms 148 where it appears that angels are a separate classification from both the sun and moon and even the stars that give praise, as well as these humans who praise Him: 

Psalm 148 1-14 Praise the Lord! Praise the Lord from the heavens; Praise Him in the heights! 2 Praise Him, all His angels; Praise Him, all His heavenly armies! 3 Praise Him, sun and moon; Praise Him, all stars of light! 4 Praise Him, highest heavens, And the waters that are above the heavens! 5 They are to praise the name of the Lord, For He commanded and they were created. 6 He has also established them forever and ever; He has made a decree, and it will not pass away. 7 Praise the Lord from the earth, Sea monsters, and all the ocean depths; 8 Fire and hail, snow and clouds; Stormy wind, fulfilling His word; 9 Mountains and all hills; Fruit trees and all cedars; 10 Animals and all cattle; Crawling things and winged fowl; 11 Kings of the earth and all peoples; Rulers and all judges of the earth; 12 Both young men and virgins; Old men and children.
13They are to praise the name of the Lord, For His name alone is exalted;
His majesty is above earth and heaven. 14 And He has lifted up a horn for His people, Praise for all His godly ones, For the sons of Israel, a people near to Him. Praise the Lord!

When some choose to read Job 38:7 as “stars singing next to sons of God shouting” as “because these are side-by-side and in the same event they must both be the same”, we are obligated to reason the same manner to Psalm 148 and disregard all context and say that everything is angels. Sun, moon, angels, Israel, the sea, fire, hail, clouds, all of it is now angels. God goes into detail in telling us how He created everything in Genesis 1. He didn’t mention making the angels at creation, so to inject that interpretation of angels into both Job 38:7 and Genesis 1 is taking heavy liberties in adding and subtracting scripture. (God did create angels according to Nehemiah 9:6, we just don’t know when.,)

A critique of this explanation is that it must be grounded as a metaphor. Morning stars and sons of God at creation are speaking to a "thing" and are not metaphoric in and of themselves. A metaphor being grounded in reality is a fair criticism.

If it is not a metaphor, is there a text that places sons of God as men rather than the ascription to angels? For this, let us look back at Genesis. 

 Genesis 1:26-28 Then God said, “Let Us make mankind in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the livestock and over all the earth, and over every crawling thing that crawls on the earth.” 27 So God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”



During creation, mankind was made. Adam walked with God in the Garden and some believe that God was pre-incarnate Christ, Yeshua in the flesh. If Christ was in the flesh walking and praising the Father with Adam, then the sons of God would both be shouting for joy and that would satisfy Job 38, but let's look further in Genesis 5:

Genesis 5:1-2 This is the book of the generations of Adam. On the day when God created man, He made him in the likeness of God. 2 He created them male and female, and He blessed them and named them “mankind” on the day when they were created. 

This is stating that on that day of creation, when God created man, He created them, male and female. Mankind is made in the image of God. Mankind is plural. Them is plural. During creation to some degree, Adam, the son of God (contained within himself a plurality), all future generations within him. Him, shouting for joy in worship is the reason mankind was created to glorify God. We were created to reflect God’s glory in His image. When Adam had a son, it says he made his son in the likeness of Adam. Part of Adam went from out within himself into the creation of his son. Contained within Adam at his creation, was Eve and every seed for every son that would ever be. In this poetic sense, Adam was one, but many- If he praised God, all humanity praised God.  The same language that is used for God making Adam is used for Adam making his son. Does Scripture say anywhere that angels were created in the image of God, that they may be called sons?


Scripture doesn't even mention angels in the Genesis chapter 1 or 2 creation accounts, so it would be more reasonable for it to be Adam. Adam is mentioned. Eve is mentioned. Mankind is mentioned. Angels are not. So, to take Job and put angels into verse 37 just doesn't fit. Luke 3:38 states that Adam was a son of God the same way Genesis 5 does through genealogy: 

Luke 3:38 the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.

Adam, in a pre-sin, perfect state, would be in perfect obedience to God and qualify as both definitions of sons of God. Furthermore, since Job 38 must have a grounding for its spring boarding, then let's take a look at the importance of Hebrews 1:


Hebrew 1:5 For to which of the angels did He ever say,

“You are My Son,Today I have fathered You”?

And again, “I will be a Father to Him

And He will be a Son to Me”?


Granted, this is about the Messiahship of the Savior, but this implies that God never said to angels, “you are My sons”, as they are not sons of God but people are. If God had anywhere said this about angels, then the answer to the question posed when asked “Of which of the angels did God ever say You are My Son?” would be "Steve the angel son of God" or "Todd the angel, God's son". Since it is not the case, we have to ask ourselves, "Can we find a single example in Scripture where an angel is called a son? I haven’t found one and believe me friends, I have been looking. Instead, we have examples of God calling men sons of God.

Job 1, and 2 are referencing the faithful, obedient men of God appearing before the Lord at the three appointed feasts. As it states in Exodus 23 and 34:

Exodus 23:17 Three times a year all your males(sons) shall appear before the Lord God( God).

Exodus 34 :23 Three times a year all your males (sons)are to appear before the Lord God, the God of Israel. 24 For I will drive out nations from you and enlarge your borders, and no one will covet your land when you go up three times a year to appear before the Lord your God.

Even if you didn’t want to go with Adam being a singular man with all generations within him to account for the sons praising, or you didn’t want to assume that Christ in the garden worshiping God might fit the passage, there is still another option. Noah. After God flooded the earth and destroyed the world everything that wasn’t on the ark:

Job 38:7-11 When the morning stars sang together

And all the sons of God shouted for joy?

8 “Or who enclosed the sea with doors

When, bursting forth, it went out from the womb;

9 When I made a cloud its garment

And thick darkness its swaddling band,

10 And I placed boundaries on it

And set a bolt and doors,

11 And I said, ‘Thus far you shall come, but no farther;

And here shall your proud waves stop’?

Similar language is used that relates to the flood. 

Genesis 7:11-12 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day all the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened. 12 The rain fell upon the earth for forty days and forty nights.



A case could be made that the language in Job references how God opened the earth and had the water rise, as well as made the clouds dark in torrential, downpouring rain, and it continued to fill the earth until God said stop. Did Noah worship God after he left the ark?

Genesis 8 :18-20 So Noah went out, and his sons and his wife and his sons’ wives with him. 19 Every beast, every creeping thing, and every bird, everything that moves on the earth, went out by their families from the ark. 20 Then Noah built an altar to the Lord, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar.

He did. That gives us three reasonable explanations of who these sons of God are without injecting angels into the text and distorting other texts.


Critics of these reasonable explanations of who the sons of God are tend to get hung up on the language used for the term. In most places, the phrase is “beni Elohim,” which means sons of God. In a few places it says “beni ha Elohim,” which means…sons of God. They argue that there is a special designation for “beni ha Elohim” that must mean angels are literal sons of God. This is an argument from silence, because even if there is a differing qualifier to emphasize specific sonship, there is no verse that tells us that this is referring to the angels. Rather, Adam is a son of God. He has no father but God. Adam is not an angelic being, even though he fits the definition of being a literal son of God. Genesis 5 and Luke 3 both designate that Adam is a son of God. 

Genesis 5:1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day when God created man, He made him in the likeness of God.

Luke 3:38 the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.

In the obedient sense, we become grafted-in sons of God. In the literal sense by creation, God is our Father. 

Malachi 2:10 “Do we not all have one father? Has not one God created us? Why do we deal treacherously each against his brother so as to profane the covenant of our fathers?



Both designations “beni Elohim” and “beni ha Elohim” are accounted for without needing to push other Scriptures out of their place to hammer together a fallen, demon-giant baby scenario. 


In summary, sons of God aren't angels falling and taking earthly wives and making giant babies. Nor are the sons of God just a specific line of Seth or based on heredity at all. Walking in God’s ways are what it means to be adopted sons of God, grafted into His house through obedience and love for Him. 


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