Col 2 counter
“Be careful that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit based on human tradition, based on the elements of the world, rather than Christ. "
What is human tradition? Lawlessness.
What is Divine obedience? Keeping the Law of God through grace and faith because you are saved.
Knowledge proof
The knowledge of God is not like the knowledge obtained by laboratory science. Empirical data is based on the reliability of what is called “logical induction,” that is, phenomenological impressions of repeatability, continuity, and perpetuity which assume that metaphysical cause and effect event/relationships hold in “space-time.” However, the intellectual act of logical induction assumes several more basic things, for instance, the instinctive faith that the future will resemble the past; the unreflective assurance that sensory experience is reliable and that measurement is possible; the mystical expectation that mathematical concepts refer to (or correspond with) “external” reality; the metaphysical supposition that causal connections exist and are valid; the quasi-religious conviction that experiences (i.e., data) can be universalized and generalized into "laws," and so on. Moreover, scientific methodology further assumes certain "intellectual virtues" and non-empirical values, for instance, the assumption that truth is important; that insistence that data should be verifiable and not deliberately falsified (or politicized); the moral axiom that it is better to know than not to know, etc. Indeed science even expresses "artistic sentiment" by poetically arguing that some scientific theories (i.e., "narratives") or models ("metaphors") are more “coherent” or “elegant” than others, that symmetry and order are important to doing research, and so on. I say all this to demonstrate that science is a faith system that depends on logical, metaphysical, philosophical, spiritual, and axiological assumptions that are not derived from nor grounded in the practice of science itself... The foundations of science are based on concepts and ideas “pilfered” from the Torah and the truth of God. Far from discovering the means of doing science through the paradigm of the "scientific method" itself, understand then that the first principles of logic, the exercise of faith, and an objective sense of transcendental value are all presupposed in order to inductively identify and infer whatever is defined as "real." The knowledge of God, on the other hand, is based on moral intuition (conscience, a sense of justice, etc.), logical reflection (e.g., why there is something rather than nothing at all), mystical awareness and a sense of the numinous, direct revelation (i.e., spiritual encounter), the veridical experiences and testimonies of others, the perpetuity of the confession of believers, and so on. For those who have encountered the Divine Presence in Yeshua, the risen and ascended Savior, God further gives witness by means of “argumentum spiritus sancti,” the testimony of the Holy Spirit, the inner revelation that is imparted to comfort and assure the heart of faith.
A B Logic
Can you reconcile this for meA:Christ followed and obeyed and taught the Law of God ( If He didn't He's not the sinless perfect Lamb without blemish)B: We are to follow, obey and teach living and being like Christ.How do we do B without doing A?A: We are to obey the Holy SpiritB: The Holy Spirit writes the Law of God on our hearts and minds that we may obey itHow do we do A without doing BA: We are to crucify the flesh and obey the SpiritB: The flesh is hostile to God's law, and the Law of God is Spiritual.How do we do A without B?
Spirit proof 1
1 John 3:4 Sin is lawlessness
1 John 2:16 Sin is in the flesh
Romans 8:5 The Spirit is contrary to the flesh
Hebrews 8:10-12 The Holy Spirit writes the Law on our hearts and mind
Romans 8:7 the flesh is against the Law of God
Romans 7:14 The Law is Spiritual
Sin= Violation of the Law = Flesh = against the Spirit
New heaven proof
Matthew 5:17-18 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.18“For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
Luke 16:17 “But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one stroke of a letter of the Law to fail.
2 Peter 3:10-11 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.11¶Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness
Revelation 21:1-2 1¶Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea. 2And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.
Isaiah 66:16-17;22-24 16For the LORD will execute judgment by fire And by His sword on all flesh, And those slain by the LORD will be many. 17“Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go to the gardens, Following one in the center, Who eat swine’s flesh, detestable things and mice, Will come to an end altogether,” declares the LORD. 22For just as the new heavens and the new earth Which I make will endure before Me,” declares the LORD, “So your offspring and your name will endure. 23“And it shall be from new moon to new moon And from sabbath to sabbath, All mankind will come to bow down before Me,” says the LORD. 24“Then they will go forth and look On the corpses of the men Who have transgressed against Me. For their worm will not die And their fire will not be quenched; And they will be an abhorrence to all mankind.”
Spirit proof 2
1 Thessalonians 5:19 says to not quench the Spirit.Hebrews 10:15 say "And the Holy Spirit also testifies to us; for after saying,16“THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THEM AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS UPON THEIR HEART, AND ON THEIR MIND I WILL WRITE THEM,” He then says,17“AND THEIR SINS AND THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE.”The New Covenant is the Spirit writing God's Law on our minds that we may obey them.What does the Spirit do? It convicts us of Sin.What is sin? 1 john 3:4 says 4¶Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessnessSo sin is breaking God's Law.The work of the Spirit is conviction against sin which is breaking God's Law. The Spirit writes the Law on our hearts and minds so we obey it.We know the Law of God is Spiritual Romans 7:1414¶For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin.We know the law is contrary to the flesh Romans 86For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace,7because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,8and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.We also know that the Spirit is contrary to the flesh Galatians 516¶But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.17For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please.So, if you're walking in the Spirit, you're obeying God's Law. If you're walking according to the flesh you're hostile to God's Law and the Spirit who writes itWalking contrary to God's commandments is to quench the Spirit.
Breakdown Of faith
Before we were saved we continually violated God's Law.
We were saved by Grace through faith, and Titus 2:11-14 say that Grace redeems us from every lawless deed.
Once we are saved, we are to repent from sin,and sin is lawlessness 1 john 3:4.
We are to live according to Christ example, who was perfectly obedient to the Law of God as if He sinned He can't be the Savior.
As we are repentant, we are walking in the Holy Spirit- who convicts us of Sin which is violation of God's Law.
We are part of the New Covenant, which is the Law of God written on our hearts so that we may obey God,as Hebrews 10 states, quoting Jeremiah 33.
We are not not walk like the/an Anti-Christ, who is called the man of Lawlessness, and people who follow them are under a delusion according to 2 thes 2.
We are called to perseverance and overcome against Satan, and the perseverance is holding to the commands of God AND the testimony of Christ, Rev. 12:17, 14:12
Peter warns us to not interpret Paul's writings as saying not to obey God's Law in 2 Peter 3:14-17
Matthew Passages
Matthew 5:17-19
“Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’
Mat 13:41 -42
41 “The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness
42 and they will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Whose being gathered?
Out of where?
To where?
The stumbling blocks and those that do lawlessness, are gathered OUT of the Kingdom of God , and thrown into the fire.
Gentiles
If the Torah was not for Gentiles, then why does God say over (Leviticus 18:26 ) and over (Leviticus 22:18-21) and over (Leviticus 24:16) and over ( Leviticus 24:22) and over (Numbers 9:14) and over (Numbers 15:15-16) and over (Numbers 15:29-30) and over (Deuteronomy 16:13-15 ) and over (Deuteronomy 26:10-11) and over (Deuteronomy 31:9-13) and over (Ecclesiastes 12:13) again that it is?
John 3:16 Is directly pitted against Matthew 15:24 UNLESS you recognize that:A) Gentiles have always been allowed to become IsraelExodus 12:38,Exodus 19:8,Deuteronomy 31:9-13
B) Gentiles have an Inheretance among the tribes,as part of Israel Ezekiel 47:21-23
C) Through Christ we become a member of the Tribes of Israel Ephesians 2:19,Romans 4:16,Romans 11:13-17,Galatians 3:29, Isaiah 56:2-8
Catholic
“Blessed is the womb that carried You, and the breasts at which You nursed!”
“On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God and follow it.”
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extras
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
Leviticus 20:13 ESV
Pro 28:9 One who turns his ear away from listening to the Law,
Even his prayer is an abomination
Roman's 8:6For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 7because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,
8and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
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