Heretical Teaching
☝This is a link to a Heretical Teaching by Salem Reformed Baptist Chruch.
👇This is my 10 page rebuke
"not paying attention to Jewish myths and commandments of men who turn away from the truth. "
The commands of God are not Jewish myths nor are the commandments of men. They are Divine Law.
We are part of the New Covenant if we are SAVED. ONCE we are ALREADY SAVED, Hebrews 10 states that as New Covenant believers have the Law of God on their hearts and on their minds.
False teachers are recognized by the ones that teach that we should not obey the Law of God as Christ Himself states we should do and Keep the Law of God in Matthew 5
“Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
To talk about doctrinal purity, What is good Doctrine:
Proverbs 4:2
For I give you good doctrine: Do not forsake my law.
The Law is not for salvation, but it is for good doctrine, for identifying what sin is, and what it isn't. What righteousness is, and what it isn't as it is written:
1 John 3:4 Everyone who does sin also does lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness.
And Again in 2 Thes chapter 2:
For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. 8 And then that lawless one will be revealed—whom the Lord Jesus will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming— 9 whose coming is in accord with the working of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, 10 and with all the deception of unrighteousness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 11 And for this reason God sends upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in unrighteousness.
You go on to speak on Ephesians and how Ministers are to teach obedience to Christ, Paul mentioned what equips men who are saved to do this.
2 Timothy 3
But you continue in the things you learned and became convinced of, knowing from whom you learned them, 15 and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to make you wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be equipped, having been thoroughly equipped for every good work.
The sacred scriptures for teaching being referred to here are God's commandments as its said "Abraham believed and then obeyed God's commandments"
You go on to mention that Satan's schemes against the church and seeks to harm through false teachings. This is correct.
Revelation 12:17
17 So the dragon was enraged with the woman and went off to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God and have the witness of Jesus.
Satan hates those that follow God's commandments, those holding to the sacred scriptures as paul mentioned, those that love the truth that the Psalmist mentions is God's Law- ALONG with their faith in Christ. He's not attacking those who are teaching "do not follow God's law"...He's attacking those that are living like Christ out of a response to their salvation of Grace alone and walking in Sanctification., repentance, obedience.
In the last days some will depart from the faith and turn to teachings of demons. We already saw where Christ in Matthew 5 says do and keep the Law, so what would the position of these demons be? I already mentioned 2 thes. 2 and the Man of lawlessness and those who are lawless and God allows a deluding Spirit over them because they didn't love the Truth, wouldn't the doctrines of demons be to disregard what God says to follow and obey?
You mention to look away from false teachers and instead to look to Christ.
Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, in Your name did we not prophesy, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name do many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’
would it be fair to say that the false teachers were advocating a total disregard for the Law of God, and did not have it on their heart and mind as New Covenant believers?
What about this passage in Matthew 13
1 The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness, 42 and will throw them into the fiery furnace; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Is it the ones who are Pro- Law or Pronomian that are thrown in the fire with the stumbling blocks and taken OUT of the kingdom?
When we read 2 Tim 4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
When Christ said to do and teach the law, and we have good doctrine as being not forsaking the law, then wouldn't it make sense that the false itching ears pastors would be telling people not to regard those pronomians who profess that we are saved by grace through faith alone and that should result in obedience and repentance?
Acts 15 was teaching that to be saved a person had to convert to Judaism and that something a person physically did allowed them to be Jewish and then once they obeyed the law they could be saved. This is not a pronomian position. This is a heresy, that as scripture points out, began in Acts 15.
Peter points out in Acts 15 that they ( Jews) were never saved by keeping the law or circumcision and that it would be unjust to start such a practice and apply it to the gentiles. Scripture clearly states taht Abraham was not saved by circumcision, He was saved by grace through faith. Hebrews 11 list all the patriarchs of the faith as being saved the same way, so the heresy that BEGAN in acts 15 is NOT what the Hebrew faith had been from Sinai to Christ- Those who teach this do not have a firm grasping of the scriptures and are in danger of being the very false preachers that they seek to stand against.
When you look at Acts 15:21 you will see that the conclusion of the council was that the gentiles ( the subjects at hand) have 4 elementary rules and that they hear the Law of God preached every sabbath. There is no command against child sacrifice in Acts 15, but we would be foolish to think that God does not have that standard for Gentile believers who as they are saved are turning to repentance. In fact, If the Torah was not for Gentiles, then why does God say over (Leviticus 18:26 ) and over (Leviticus 22:18-21) and over (Leviticus 24:16) and over ( Leviticus 24:22) and over (Numbers 9:14) and over (Numbers 15:15-16) and over (Numbers 15:29-30) and over (Deuteronomy 16:13-15 ) and over (Deuteronomy 26:10-11) and over (Deuteronomy 31:9-13) and over (Ecclesiastes 12:13) again that it is?
Godly men should lead the church, which is why I agree with the Psalmist who tells us how men can keep their way pure
Psalm 119:9-11
9 How can a young man keep his way pure?
By keeping it according to Your word.
10 With all my heart I have sought You;
Do not let me stray from Your commandments.
11 Your word I have treasured in my heart,
That I may not sin against You.
If a teacher is teaching that by obeying the commands of God one is creating disorder or sin or some how promoting a condemnation or falsehood, THAT teacher THEMSELVES would be preaching contrary to the Word of God
There is a group that was false teaching that to be saved one had to be circumcised and to keep the law- to be saved- this is heresy. On the opposite side of this false doctrine, is another false doctrine that is equally heretical, and that is those that become antinomian in doctrine and disregard God's righteousness and substitute their own interpretations of the Word rather than what God's standards are. They are choosing what THEY call righteous instead of what God says is righteous.
I am glad that you welcome public rebuke of harmful teachings. Please let this serve as such as it applies. I Must rebuke antichrist/antinomian doctrine that you may correct accordingly and conform to walking in the manner of Christ our Savior.
God's law is not Jewish myths. The commands are the Law of God . It says to avoid foolish controversies it does not say avoid important discussions regarding the very things that Christ HIMSELF says that HE did not come to abolish AND HE tells us that we are to both DO and TEACH, as those that are the least who do not do and teach them will be likened to the stumbling blocks and cast OUT of the kingdom on that day when they come to Christ when they might say "we kept so much order in your church and appointed elders" but He says Depart from me you who practice LAWLESSNESS I never knew you.
If you are saved, and are walking by the Holy Spirit, The Spirit convicts you of Sin, and Sin is the violation of God's Law. If you take issue with this, then you are chastising the Holy Spirit of God as being a judaizer and not welcomed in your church.
You cite Paul to advocate not being Pronomian, but in doing this you are the very thing that Peter warns us about in 2 Peter 3
14 Therefore, beloved, since you are looking for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless, 15 and consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, 16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard lest you, having been carried away by the error of unprincipled(antinomian) men, fall from your own steadfastness
Paul even went so far as to perform sacrifices after the death and resurrection of Christ for the EXACT purpose to prove WRONG those who are saying what you are preaching here. Acts 21:18-24;26
18 And the following day Paul went in with us to James, and all the elders were present. 19 And after he had greeted them, he began to relate one by one the things which God did among the Gentiles through his ministry. 20 And when they heard it they began glorifying God; and they said to him, “You see, brother, how many thousands there are among the Jews of those who have believed, and they are all zealous for the Law; 21 and they have been told about you, that you are teaching all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children nor to walk according to the customs. 22 What, then, is to be done? They will certainly hear that you have come. 23 Therefore do this that we tell you. We have four men who are under a vow; 24 take them and purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads. Then all will know that there is nothing to the things which they have been told about you, but that you yourself also walk orderly, keeping the Law. 26Then Paul took the men, and the next day, purifying himself along with them, went into the temple giving notice of the completion of the days of purification, until the sacrifice was offered for each one of them.
Would the teaching of demons advocate obeying God the way that God tells us to obey Him? That doesn't make sense.
You now cite the passage regarding itching ears doctrines. It is interesting that you cite this if you are holding an antinomian position as this states clearly that these people seek teachers to indulge their own passions. Did you not know that the Law of God is CONTRARY to the flesh?
Romans 8:7-8
because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God, for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8 and those who are in the flesh are not able to please God.
The Law of God is against the FLESH and that those in the FLESH cannot please God. Antinomians teach that we are not to pick up our cross and deny the flesh, the very Call of the Messiah. You cannot stay in the truth and hold to the myth indeed, abandon this myth that pronomianism is ungodly.
A Myth is a fable created by MAN- like saying that obeying God's Law because you are saved is to be rebuked or is turning to error. That is a man made myth, as that doctrine is not founded in the Word of God.
you rightly say that these myths were actually endorsing sinful behavior, as stated above sin is the violation of God's Law and disregard of God's commands and therefore you perpetuating the myth that Christ and Paul were against the Law of God is spreading the very Myths that the elders in the church are put in place to protect against.
To be clear, you are saying that at Sinai, after freeing Israel from bondage and leading them into freedom by faith- God gave them ungodly directives and doctrines of demons? That's what you are saying when you call the Word of God, God's self disclosure to the World, oppression.
In Mark 7, Christ is rebuking the Pharisees for their made up man made traditions that became the Talmud and the Mishna, not for matters concerning God's Law. The issue was that Pharisees were trying to rebuke them for not partaking in TRADITIONAL handwashing and matters that by their TRADITIONS they were saying made men and bread unclean. Please note that in this passage that Christ rebukes them over and over and over again for not only their traditions BUT FOR SETTING ASIDE THE COMMANDS OF GOD - WHICH IS WHAT THE THRUST OF YOUR ENTIRE MESSAGE IS ENTAILING. Christ is not rebuking the Pharisees for obeying God's law, He's rebuking them for NOT obeying it. Therefore it is not the man who obeys God's Commands who is like the pharisaic judaizer- IT IS THE RELIGIOUS MAN WHO BY HIS OWN INTERPRETATIONS AND TWISTING OF SCRIPTURES DISREGARDS THE COMMANDS OF GOD
You bring up sound doctrine again, so allow me to break this down
Before we were saved we continually violated God's Law.
We were saved by Grace through faith, and Titus 2:11-14 says that Grace redeems us from every lawless deed.
Once we are saved, we are to repent from sin, and sin is lawlessness 1 john 3:4.
We are to live according to Christ's example, who was perfectly obedient to the Law of God as if He sinned He can't be the Savior.
As we are repentant, we are walking in the Holy Spirit- who convicts us of Sin which is a violation of God's Law.
We are part of the New Covenant, which is the Law of God written on our hearts by that same Holy Spirit so that we may obey God,as Hebrews 10 states, quoting Jeremiah 33.
Peter warns us to not interpret Paul's writings as saying not to obey God's Law in 2 Peter 3:14-17
We are not not walking like the/an Anti-Christ, who is called the man of Lawlessness, and people who follow them are under a delusion according to 2 thes 2.
We are called to perseverance and overcome against Satan, and the perseverance is holding to the commands of God AND the testimony of Christ, Rev. 12:17, 14:12
Wouldn't it be a distortion of the word to take things that God has said in this word which are sins, and dismiss them because people may like them or to minimize them by traditions, and wouldn't that disregard for God be more of a doctrine of demons that appeases the flesh?
To be a true Christian you must LOVE GOD. Loving God, according to God, will result in obedience to His ways. Read the entirety of Hebrews 11, these mere all saved by faith and it resulted in obedience, because they loved God they believed.
"we had a young man visiting us but from what I heard he turned to Jewish myths and started keeping the mosaic Law"
Sir, “what you heard”? You didn't reach out to him? Did you accept whatever myth you heard about him? Aren't pastors checking on these things? IF He was going that way, why didn't you as a pastor, or get an elder, to sit with him or call him and walk with him through the scriptures that you might either win him to the truth in correcting his doctrine, OR YOU YOURSELF MIGHT REPENT OF FALSEHOOD YOU ESPOUSE FROM THE PULPIT?
Now you begin to double speak when you demonize pronomians for, in your words saying "they say that the Torah is binding on us" and then you admit "The old testament is binding on us as believers in Jesus". Sir are you being deliberately obtuse in your needless division or is this a personal issue for you? Why did you diminish one party in one breath and then admit to agreement in another?
I am seeing that you are having difficulty understanding the purpose of the Law, and I think you may be looking at the Law of God as being a means for salvation for people in the Old Testament. This is a common misunderstanding. From Genesis in the garden, God promised a coming Savior to redeem mankind and from the Garden anyone who was ever saved was saved by faith and it was credited to them as Righteousness. Cain and Able knew to sacrifice, Noah knew clean and unclean animals, and scripture states in Hebrews 11 that these were saved by faith, not by the Law. Now if one was thinking that performing godly actions contributed to salvation, like the men began teaching in acts 15, then yes that is falsehood and heresy and a lie from the pit of hell and bondage. HOWEVER, that is not the pronomian position. Pronomians like David, put their faith in the Messiah, Christ, The Savior of the World, The Word made flesh who dwelled among us, God incarnate. Out of that genuine and abiding love we have for God, like in any healthy relationship, we do what is pleasing to the one we love. God says rest and spend the day with Him on HIS Sabbath, rest and spend the day as prescribed in the Bible- not with man made burdensome rabbinical traditions, and not to arrogantly display an outward sense of holiness- but because WE LOVE GOD
Again you are absolutely correct that there is no distinction between civil, moral, or ceremonial Law, so when Christ says that not even the smallest jot or tittle should be diminished until HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS AWAY, and Peter and Revelation both State that has yet to happen, then stop teaching that it has.
"if you're going to keep one you have to keep the whole thing" yes, if you are trying to earn your salvation then you would need to have never sinned, and also keep all of the Law perfectly. Thank God that isn't the pronomian position or anything that they are preaching. Thank God that the false myths pastors are spreading about pronomianism are false.
I agree that Gematria and Kabbalah are weird and false. You have this correct.
Just as an atheist might label all of God's followers as immoral and evil and full of hate, so are you painting all who are obeying God's law out of a response and love of Christ's Salvation as in error. You decry much of the weirdness and fringe doctrines held by individual groups, and rightly so, but you're wrong to make it a blanket statement. Pronomians do not hold to any of those things. There are many Christians' who hold these fringe beliefs.
You are right about homosexuality and other myths regarding sexual immorality. I encourage you to keep these.
You brought up the dietary laws of God and conveyed much bewilderment. You liken to eating and abstaining of certain foods to be a custom of Mosaic law, and again this is an error. Again, looking back to Mark 7, the issue is Pharisaic law and the pharisees NOT following the commands of God and imposing that they have the authority to determine what is or isn't food, Not God. Christ rebukes them saying that it is what comes out of the heart that defiles a person- which is the choice to reject what GOD has said, in favor for what MAN has said. You appear do dismiss eating that which God has not called food as some little issue but PEOPLE IGNORING WHAT GOD DEFINES FOOD AS BEING AND CHOOSING TO SET ASIDE THE COMMANDS OF GOD AND EAT THAT WHICH HE HAS FORBIDDEN IS THE VERY ACTION THAT DOOMED HUMANITY AND KICKED US OUT OF THE GARDEN. IT IS A LITERAL DOCTRINE GIVEN BY A DEMON. YOU ARE IGNORING WHAT GOD DEFINES FOOD AS IN HIS WORD AND LITERALLY PREACHING THAT WE SHOULD TAKE AND EAT AND SAYING THAT IT IS GOOD FOR MAKING ONE WISE AND WE SURELY WILL NOT DIE. I cannot overstate enough the need to repent of that ideology. Our God does not change and is a provocation before Him.
You have stated that in Christ we have no food laws. Setting aside that your statement contradicts you earlier point in acts 15 where gentiles are commanded to avoid meat sacrificed to idols which in of itself is a food law, I will present you with a burning question:
Isaid 66 states that God will (not has, will) pour out indignation on ALL FLESH (not just Jews) who eat swine and mice and abominations BEFORE the NEw heaven and new earth are created which are spoken of in 2 Peter and Revelation 21. IF that is something that enrages GOD, whom we love- not even just the element of it being a sin which it is- but we KNOW its something that upsets our God whom we love... then wouldn't that mean that to consume these things is not an act of liberty but selfishness? Wouldn't the justification of such an action be akin to saying that "Love is Love '' to excuse adultery or fornication? The degree in which you hate sin is the degree in which you love God's Law, and friend your message is romantic to DEATH towards the flesh.
How can you preach so adoringly of the Lord's Supper as a reflection of Christ, and then Dismiss GOD'S COMMANDS REGARDING WHAT IS FOOD! Both are reflections of Christ. We are of faith so we eat the things of faith that God tells us are food. Those who are not of faith eat abominations such as pork and shellfish. Again like the Pharisees, when Rebuked by Christ... You should have done the latter without neglecting the former.
The dividing wall that Christ abolished was man made customs, NOT making abominations that God said not to eat into food. God never called the gentiles unclean, MAN MADE TRADITIONS DID. It was a mixed multitude that left Egypt, a mixed multitude at Sinai, and a mixed multitude that agreed to the Torah. God didn't have two separate standards of Sin, He's not a respecter of persons that says that one is a sin for a Jew and one is a sin for a gentile.... that IS A MYTH.
Colossians 2 is referring to the Pharisees saying that bread was unclean if you touched it without obeying MAN MADE TRADITIONS. IT IS NOT ABOUT OBEYING GOD'S WORD!!! God's LAW IS NOT THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN THEY ARE FROM GOD!!!
"all things are pure to those who are pure" This is referring to food. Bread is food. What this is not referring to is calling things God said aren't food, as food. Here is a breakdown of this concept for you https://therealgiantslayer.blogspot.com/2023/09/you-cant-sit-with-us.html.
Think about this in Isaiah 66
“For just as the new heavens and the new earth
Which I make will endure before Me,” declares Yahweh,
“So your seed and your name will endure.
23 And it shall be from new moon to new moon
And from sabbath to sabbath,
All mankind will come to worship before Me,” says Yahweh.
24 “Then they will go forth and look
On the corpses of the men
Who have transgressed against Me.
For their worm will not die
And their fire will not be quenched;
And they will be an object of contempt to all mankind.”
Those that eat abominations are destroyed and they will be corpses and an abhorrence. What does Revelation 21:8 say about those that ARENT in Heaven?
Revelation 21:8
But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and sexually immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
The abhorrence. Daniel 12 tells us the same thing
And many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to reproach and everlasting contempt. 3 And those who have insight will shine brightly like the brightness of the expanse of heaven, and those who lead the many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever.
Be obedient. If you are in Christ, you will do the things of Christ. Christ walked in obedience to the Law of God. We are to be Holy as He is Holy. We are under grace and we are under Mercy, but we are called to repent. Just as I am calling you to repent and live like Christ and die to your flesh and stop preaching the doctrine of demons, of satan, and of lawlessness.
