This is a place where I post my thoughts on God, man, sin, death, failure, triumph and all the laughter and anguish that they produce.
Thursday, October 31, 2019
Divine.
Messianics have an chip on their shoulders when it comes to heresy. So many have been in the church and have come to find that something that a very important and defining part of scripture has been misinterpreted or misapplied. One of the most frustrating parts in finding that out, is the painstaking over correction. It isn't that we just set aside the false interpretation in regard to the Torah, no, it seems we are painstakingly going back and re-evaluating every rightly debunked heresy as well. It is because of this that we have seen a rise in strange doctrines and conspiracy and the resurgence of gnosticism. However, every now and again something right gets tossed out of the mix. They throw the baby out with the bathwater. One of the doctrines people abandon is the triune nature of God. I've pulled some samples from various places as example texts because sometimes you have to look at the big picture instead of a very narrowed scope. I'll walk you through some points...
Called God
The Father : Phil 1:2 "Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ."
The Son: John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
Col 2:9 "For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form"
The Holy Spirit : Acts 5:3-4 "But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back some of the price of the land? 4 While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not under your control? Why is it that you have conceived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.”
CreatorThe Father: Isaiah 64: 8 But now, O Lord, You are our Father, We are the clay, and You our potter;
And all of us are the work of Your hand
The Son: John 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
Col 1:15-17 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.
The Holy Spirit: Job 33:4 “The Spirit of God has made me, And the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
Resurrects
The Father: 1 Thes 1:10 and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, that is Jesus, who rescues us from the wrath to come
The Son: John 2:19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”
10:17 For this reason the Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I may take it again
The Holy Spirit: Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you
Indwells
The Father: 2 Cor 6:16 Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, “I will dwell in them and walk among them;
And I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
The Son: Col 1:27 to whom God willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
The Holy Spirit: John 14:17 that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.
Everywhere
The Father: 1 Kings 8:27 “But will God indeed dwell on the earth? Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain You, how much less this house which I have built!
The Son: Matt 28:20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”
The Holy Spirit: Psalm 139:7-10 Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence?8 If I ascend to heaven, You are there; If I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there.
9 If I take the wings of the dawn, If I dwell in the remotest part of the sea,10 Even there Your hand will lead me, And Your right hand will lay hold of me.
All Knowing
The Father: 1 John 3:20 in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things.
The Son: John 16:30 Now we know that You know all things, and have no need for anyone to question You; by this we believe that You came from God.”
21:17 He *said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love Me?” Peter was grieved because He said to him the third time, “Do you love Me?” And he said to Him, “Lord, You know all things; You know that I love You.” Jesus *said to him, “Tend My sheep.
The Holy Spirit:1 Cor 2:10-11 For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. 11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God.
Sanctifies
The Father: 1 Thes 5:23 Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
The Son: Hebrews 2:11 For both He who sanctifies and those who are sanctified are all from one Father; for which reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren
The Holy Spirit:1 Peter 1:2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: May grace and peace be yours in the fullest measure.
Life Giving
The Father: Gen 2:7 Then the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.
John 5:21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son also gives life to whom He wishes.
The Son: John 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
5:21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son also gives life to whom He wishes.
The Holy Spirit:2 Cor 3:6-8 who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.7 But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory?
Fellowship
The Father: 1 John 1:3 what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.
The Son: 1 Cor 1:9 God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.
The Holy Spirit: 2 Cor 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.
Phil 2:1 Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion,
Eternal
The Father: Psalms 90:2 Before the mountains were born Or You gave birth to the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God.
The Son: Micah 5 :1-2 Now muster yourselves in troops, daughter of troops; They have laid siege against us; With a rod they will smite the judge of Israel on the cheek. 2 “But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Too little to be among the clans of Judah, From you One will go forth for Me to be ruler in Israel. His goings forth are from long ago, From the days of eternity.
The Holy Spirit:Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.
Hebrews 9:14 how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
A Will
The Father: Luke 22:42 saying, “Father, if You are willing, remove this cup from Me; yet not My will, but Yours be done
The Son: John 6:38 "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
The Holy Spirit: 1 Cor 12:11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills.
Speaks
The Father: Matt 3:17 and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased.”
The Son: Luke 9:26 For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory, and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels
Luke 5:20 Seeing their faith, He said, “Friend, your sins are forgiven you.”
7:48 Then He said to her, “Your sins have been forgiven.”
The Holy Spirit: Acts 8:29 Then the Spirit said to Philip, “Go up and join this chariot
11:12 The Spirit told me to go with them without misgivings. These six brethren also went with me and we entered the man’s house.
13:2 While they were ministering to the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.”
Love
The Father: John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life
The Son: Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her,
The Holy Spirit: Romans 15:30 Now I urge you, brethren, by our Lord Jesus Christ and by the love of the Spirit, to strive together with me in your prayers to God for me
Searches the Heart
The Father: Jer 17:10 “I, the Lord, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give to each man according to his ways, According to the results of his deeds.
The Son:Rev 2:23 And I will kill her children with pestilence, and all the churches will know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts; and I will give to each one of you according to your deeds
The Holy Spirit:1 Cor 2:10 For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God
Now some people get stuck on one issue; Christ not putting the focus on Himself but instead giving it all to the Father saying to pray to Him. Though they say they aren't trying to make Yeshua out to be a lesser God or a demigod, their words often do that. The reason that Christ puts the focus on Glory to the Father is simple 1. As an example of a perfect Son. 2. How do you exemplify humility and still demand people worship you? People did worship Him and there isn't any record of Him telling them to stop. When we look at verses like this:
“You are My witnesses,” declares the Lord,“And My servant whom I have chosen,
So that you may know and believe Me
And understand that I am He.
Before Me there was no God formed,
And there will be none after Me.
11 “I, even I, am the Lord,
And there is no savior besides Me. - Isaiah 43
Wednesday, October 2, 2019
Sunday Shoos
You know what I was thinking about? I was thinking about Paul in Athens right. He's in a pagan city with all of its paganess,and they're paganing as pagans do. The script says
A lot of us won't go meet those who are in christian churches even though they're God-fearing, just as many of us were before we were entrusted with the revelation of Torah that we might be a little less stiff necked. We've got this stigma of US and THEM when not too long ago who we are now was the THEM.
Look at Paul again
A lot of us don't get that far. We wont set foot in a sunday church to find these people that might say "May we know what this new teaching is which you are proclaiming? For you are bringing some strange things to our ears; so we want to know what these things mean.” Why?
because often time we're angry or insulted by the "What would this idle babbler wish to say?” Others, “He seems to be a proclaimer of strange deities" part. What if we met them where they're at and proclaimed the part that their missing?
I think we often overlook the FACT that many sunday meet ups contain those who are very religious in all respects who worship in ignorance, that need someone to proclaim to them what it true. More of a Yeshua t the well waiting for the conversation to arise and less like Joshua stepping and slicing off Kings heads. (time and place for both of those)
What would happen if we read the book of Jonah, and where it said Jonah we put our names... and where it said Nineveh, we put the church?
“Arise, go to [The sunday church] and proclaim to it the proclamation which I am going to tell you.” So [ I ] arose and went to [The sunday church] according to the word of the Lord. Now [Sunday church] was an exceedingly [Large mega church], a three [hour service].
Then the people of [The sunday church] believed in God; and they called a fast and put on sackcloth from the greatest to the least of them. (repented)"
Then the Lord said, “You had compassion on the plant for which you did not work and which you did not cause to grow, which came up overnight and perished overnight. Should I not have compassion on [the sunday church], the [Large mega chuch] in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know the difference between their right and left hand, as well as many animals?”
"Now while Paul was waiting for them at Athens, his spirit was being provoked within him as he was observing the city full of idols "We've got people here, My self included that get super provoked in Spirit by all the dongle trees and Nimrodian shinnanigans... that's relatable. But sometimes we're not like Paul, because Paul it says
"So he was reasoning in the synagogue with the Jews and the God-fearing Gentiles, and in the market place every day with those who happened to be present. "
A lot of us won't go meet those who are in christian churches even though they're God-fearing, just as many of us were before we were entrusted with the revelation of Torah that we might be a little less stiff necked. We've got this stigma of US and THEM when not too long ago who we are now was the THEM.
Look at Paul again
"And also some of the Epicurean and Stoic philosophers were conversing with him. Some were saying, “What would this idle babbler wish to say?” Others, “He seems to be a proclaimer of strange deities,”—because he was preaching Jesus and the resurrection. 19 And they took him and brought him to the Areopagus, saying, “May we know what this new teaching is which you are proclaiming? 20 For you are bringing some strange things to our ears; so we want to know what these things mean.”
A lot of us don't get that far. We wont set foot in a sunday church to find these people that might say "May we know what this new teaching is which you are proclaiming? For you are bringing some strange things to our ears; so we want to know what these things mean.” Why?
because often time we're angry or insulted by the "What would this idle babbler wish to say?” Others, “He seems to be a proclaimer of strange deities" part. What if we met them where they're at and proclaimed the part that their missing?
"“Men of Athens, I observe that you are very religious in all respects. 23 For while I was passing through and examining the objects of your worship, I also found an altar with this inscription, ‘TO AN UNKNOWN GOD.’ Therefore what you worship in ignorance, this I proclaim to you.
I think we often overlook the FACT that many sunday meet ups contain those who are very religious in all respects who worship in ignorance, that need someone to proclaim to them what it true. More of a Yeshua t the well waiting for the conversation to arise and less like Joshua stepping and slicing off Kings heads. (time and place for both of those)
What would happen if we read the book of Jonah, and where it said Jonah we put our names... and where it said Nineveh, we put the church?
“Arise, go to [The sunday church] and proclaim to it the proclamation which I am going to tell you.” So [ I ] arose and went to [The sunday church] according to the word of the Lord. Now [Sunday church] was an exceedingly [Large mega church], a three [hour service].
Then the people of [The sunday church] believed in God; and they called a fast and put on sackcloth from the greatest to the least of them. (repented)"
Then the Lord said, “You had compassion on the plant for which you did not work and which you did not cause to grow, which came up overnight and perished overnight. Should I not have compassion on [the sunday church], the [Large mega chuch] in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know the difference between their right and left hand, as well as many animals?”
What if Christ held that same mentality, that He would not step into our world because we ARE too stiff necked and HE too set apart? Where would we be then?
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